Glitch in audio when capturing to remix deck

Fairly new to the S8 but when testing out the remix decks I noticed a really strage glitch at the end of the loop when sent to remix deck. I would for example set an 8 bar loop by using the dial to select my loop lengh and play the track which started the loop. This sounds fine when looped through deck B but if I then select remix and assign to a pad on the remix deck I get a very strange audio glitch at the end and it does not sound right.

I then tried this again but this time before capturing I assigned the loop to a performace pad and captured to the remix deck and this actually seemed to be OK so now I have 2 files from the same loop but one sounds correct and the other has this strange glitch at the end like the sample lengh is incorrect with a click at the end.

Anyone else come across this? or is there a set method for capturing to the remix deck.

 

Right! I noticed the same yesterday (my S8 is not a week old). I have firmware version 80 running, Traktor 2.9.0. Win8.1, latest drivers. I'd love to assist here if possible, because this sounds like a bug!
The loop in the track deck sounded perfect. But when capturing to the Remix deck, and played back, there's a 'tick' at the end of the sample just as it loops around. Not very loud, but you can hear it without having to realy listen for it.

So from my side: confirmed!

 

I've managed to capture it using my GoPro, so sound from mic, but you can hear it.



Later on I noticed in the sample of the remix deck file, that the first beat wasn't really starting where it should. Then I noticed that the beatgrid was more or less on the same position (bg1.png). After moving the beatgrid to the start of the waveform, and redo the whole thing, the loop in the remix deck sounds OK (bg2.png). But surely if a loop in a Track Deck sounds good, it should sound the same in a Remix Deck and we won't all have to adjust our beatgrids to make the remix decks work? It seems that the Remix Decks are not fully capturing the loop from the Track Deck and we're missing a bunch of samples, somehow linked to the beatgrid.

Also in this video we can see that when starting the Remix Deck sample, it's not fully in sync with the Track Deck. This is another bug?

 

Great thanks for confirming I also did notice an issue with the waveform as well, mine looks like it has been cut off short so I tried to tweak the latency thinking it might be due to that but never made much difference as a work around capturing to the performance pad then sending to the remix deck seems to work. Very surprised that got past testing as it was pretty much the first thing I did when I got it, all I want to do it create my own banks of loops and samples from other tracks so this causes a lot of problems if your are trying to do this on the fly live to bring back in later which kinda undermines the whole principle of the S8.

Hopefully we can get a response from NI to test this for us,

 

On a another side note I agree on the grid as even when i captured via the performance pad it just did not sound right when playing all the captured loops together so now I am back home I think I might try a few more tests. I am going to make sure sync is enabled on both the track deck and remix deck when capturing. However If the sampled track has a proper beat grid then in my mind sync should not matter when capturing it should just match up when you active it.

Then again if the waveform is not correct when capturing maybe this throws the grid off when it moves to the remix deck.

 

I've done some more testing, where I adjust the beatgrid in 4 steps (ticks) and test the remix deck. Only in the first case the Remix Deck loop sounds OK, all other three tests, the loop sounds flawed. In all cases the loop in the Track Deck sounds OK. And what's most weird: All wav files have the same amount of samples! So wth is going on here? All files included for NI!

 

Is NI going to read this?

 

Bump. Is there a special place to submit bug reports (I suppose this is a bug ..)

 

This glitch is really beginning to grind my gears - and updates or workarounds?

 

Push NI. Or re-do the beatgrids on all your tracks.

 

Thanks for pointing this out, had a similar problem, loops seems fine when capturing to a remix deck, but its seem shift in time, so the loop in track deck runs and comparing it with the remix deck its shifted in phase, turning sync of and adjusting it manual to get it back on the beat of the same loop running in the track deck...had this a few times, looks like its off a quarter note...

 

I see little point in offsetting correct grids to remedy the bug. All I want is to capture a loop from deck to remix. The loop is correct in deck, but not once sampled. Sometimes I had better results when the remix deck I was about to load into already had sync enabled, but not consistently. Once I broke it down some more I realised how to replicate it straight away...

When capturing a deck to a remix cell :
- if the deck that you are copying from is currently playing, then the sample loop is buggy
- if the deck that you are copying from IS NOT currently playing, then sample loops correctly

So make sure you stop playback of the source deck before you capture (and that your cue and loop length are correct) and you wont get that buggy tail in your loops. It still doesn't actually solve anything, but it seems that layer of prep is the only real workaround. If you can't do it on the fly, then the features are useless in the context they were built in IMO.

(For reference, with my current remix deck setup using an APCmini I am holding a shift register for deck A, B, or LoopRecorder, and then pressing the desired cell)

 

Same problem here, captured loop in deck A using f1, imported to deck B zoomed right in on both decks A and B, the recorded sample is missing data as comparedwit the end of the loop from which it was captured.
I got it to work few times I think (maybe it was just a coincidence), I think that loop recorder records it correctly...

 

How do we get this to NI?

 

Seems this thread has been stale for some time. Has this been resolved? Just bought a S5 and love it. Downfall is this glitch. It's very noticeable with the hardtechno loops I capture. Is there a easy way to fix this?

 

No there isn't. It's that I don't really use the remix decks that I havent taken te time to push NI to fix it.

 

Thanks for the update. Stinks that they are just letting this go.

 

If you have an idea where or how to report to NI .. because pretty much all the data they need is in this thread, including samples and reproduction sequences.

 

I agree with ya. I'll see what I can do. I can make more examples if need be .

 

Any news on that bug?