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Global Volume Control

Discussion in 'Feature Suggestions' started by Tav, Feb 19, 2007.

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  1. Tav

    Tav NI Product Owner

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    It would make sense that Massive would have Global Volume Control
    so one wouldn't have to program it into each of the patches separately.
     
  2. Mr. Anxiety

    Mr. Anxiety NI Product Owner

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    Absolutely! I second and third it!
     
  3. tripit

    tripit NI Product Owner

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    No kidding. I was surprised to see that this wasn't available.
     
  4. Lowkus

    Lowkus NI Product Owner

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    100% definitely. It is the first thing that I noticed was missing from the program.
     
  5. Kevoguy

    Kevoguy New Member

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    For the love of god, yes. It's incredibly annoying not having this.
     
  6. scottm

    scottm NI Product Owner

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  7. fhyio123

    fhyio123 Forum Member

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  8. Lowkus

    Lowkus NI Product Owner

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    Does anyone know if NI is working on this? It's a volume knob that doesn't respond to snap changes, and I can't think of anything easier to add to a synth. So why has an update not been released with the global volume knob added?
     
  9. fhyio123

    fhyio123 Forum Member

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    I think it`s a bit wrong for NI to not answer any of their forum questions. I have been on forum since march and haven`t had 1 reply.

    Can anyone let me know if native instruments has replied to them regarding queries made concerning their products ?

    Massive has been out for 2 years and native instruments has not collaborated with their users at all to improve product design and user experience. Considering the amount of money they have made, they could spend some of that money on product development.



    Another question dosen`t NI have a development team that reads this stuff, and if they do why do they not implement these things ?

    Fhyio
     
  10. Tav

    Tav NI Product Owner

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    Massive Volume Control

    I have sent requests to them about this forever and have gotten no response ever. It would only be fitting that if they are not going to
    fix this that they should at least state the reason why. i would love to
    hear their logic as to why not. I would totally disagree with their answer.
    I don't know how hard it could be to fix but it would end up being like any functional synth on the market. Excuses that i have heard are to
    use the track volume in the daw that you are using. that is the long way around and is useless when using massive in standalone. One can program individual oscillator volumes but one would have to do it for each of the patches. Just tell me why , that's all.
     
  11. ew

    ew Moderator Moderator

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    Name a synth plugin (other than a dedicated drum plugin such as Battery or MicroTonic) that has a global volume control. I can't think of any of mine that do (and I've got lots of plugins...)

    ew
     
  12. Tav

    Tav NI Product Owner

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    Drum Global volume

    Right off the top of my head Stylus does but this is about Massive
     
  13. ew

    ew Moderator Moderator

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    Ah- where is the global volume? I haven't tried the demo for a long time, but if I remember, the volume on the main page was per patch...

    And why am I bringing it up? Are you on all the other developers' forums demanding that one be put into their plugins?

    Just curious...

    ew
     
  14. Summa

    Summa Sounddesigner

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    Why don't you use mixer automation, most sequencer/recording software should be able to do that. If I'm not mistaken, due to the higher internal resolution, placing the volume control on the mixer-section should help to prevent rounding errors.
     
  15. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    but that does not work if you use Massive in Standalone Mode and is a bit inconvenient when using Massive in a DAW.

    anyway, my issue is that the Master Volume can't be MIDI learnt.

    it would be nice to able to switch between having the Master Volume settings saved in a patch and having it patch isolated.

    but isn't the point of having the settings saved because some patches can be very loud and therefore need to have the ooutput volume much lower, whilst other subtle patches can need the output volume at maximum?

    sowari
     
  16. Kevoguy

    Kevoguy New Member

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    Has there been any resolution to this? It seems like every knob except for the master volume has a Midi Learn option. I don't know why they wouldn't allow master volume to be controlled this way.
     
  17. Summa

    Summa Sounddesigner

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    Saving shouldn't be a problem as well, most Recording Software saves the audio mixer settings as well and the resolution is a lot higher than the 7 Bit of a MIDI Controller.
     
  18. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    ;)

    sorry, but i don't want to go with this workaround.

    one of the main knobs in the new Maschine Controller is a Volume knob. it is ridiculous that i can't programme that to control the Main Volume.

    sowari
     
  19. Summa

    Summa Sounddesigner

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    Since Massive Volume is assignable to a Macro Controller within Kore, I guess it'll work with Machine as well.
     
  20. Mr. Anxiety

    Mr. Anxiety NI Product Owner

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    This feature should be available in Massive. It shouldn't have to be debated by forum monitors. It is a simple request made by many users of the product. It is also a feature that is implemented on other NI products.

    If there is a compelling technical reason why NI can't deliver this feature, then it should be announced so everyone can know the reason why.

    How simple this is.

    Mr. A.

    User of every product NI makes, just about.
     
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