Got a second hand Maschine Mk2. Can't buy Maschine 2.0??

Oh I see.

There is nothing wrong with selling the controller without the software as long as you are upfront about it. This thread (Thanks op) had me looking at controllers today without the software license.

 

Seems a bit pointless when you can't buy the software though. I guess if you already have it and want multiple Maschines I guess? I could see travelling with the Mikro and using the regular one at home... I'm not that committed to the platform at this stage

 

And some are looking for hardware without software, imagine yours is broken! Then you don't need the software twice and save money normally.

Uwe

 

I once bought a used Maschine Mikro MK1 including the Software, for 100€....

 

KVR have a busy buy sell forum. I often see maschine software for sale there.
Join it.
Start a WTB (want to buy) thread.
See who comes along with an offer.
Keep bumping every three days.
Bet you get a an offer within 2 weeks

 

For all that i am anti-Apple and their restrictive sandbox practices, the one thing they do well is to allow you to de-register one or all computers for the iTunes Library, and easy to add another.. it makes shutting down one machine and adding another very very simple..

WIth the cost of manual intervention of support in the handling of Maschine (and other licenses) it really would be in NI's best interest to make licence management a user online activity..

 

As always people need to understand that it's not NI but the seller creating the problem.
Also the process of un-registering NI hardware for resale is pretty easy and straight forward.
Most sellers just aren't concerned in doing so or are doing some underhanded stuff to retain the software.

 

They are just going to counter that NI should sell the software separate.

 

Well yes and no - like I stated NI could refuses to sell the software until they get a hardware serial number. Maybe a picture of person next to the controller holding up todays newspaper - etc

Not seeing what the underhand is, if they seller wants to keep the software after selling the controller so what. If they keep the software they would be the one having the nasty surprise not the seller, if NI made it so that the software won't work without a controller plugged in once a month.

There's a lot of reverse logic in the current scenario.

 

Because there is no such thing as "the software".
The software and hardware are one so from NI's point of view that's all that exist, it's not a controller and software.

They see it as the hardware needs the software to operate the same way a normal hardware instrument needs it's OS.

When people sell the hardware only or even the software only they are violating their license because it's tied to the hardware/software as a single entity.

They should have just stuck with the idea of the software not running with the hardware.

 

That's not true. I've sold several spare copies of the software. And you can sell the hardware separately too. You just have to deactivate your serial and let them know the ID of the person you're selling to.

 

And the software not running without the hardware attached is an idea I do not like at all...

 

Yes that is the status quo right now. My posts suggests changing this.

 

Hmm having controller plugged in once a month has now turned into the software not running without hardware attached at all! Hmm me senses exaggeration ...

Edit.. Actually a better idea would be to check it every time maschine is installed or updated via service center, one time only.

 

Not that anyone asked....

Akai has it that the controller has to be connected during the initial install, each controller auto populates the hardware serial number. Any software update install doesn't need this step.

 

You can use both MkII and Micro in the same session though. Or have the Micro as a more mobile rig. Or... sell the Micro as a controller without the software! The difference being what you then paid for just the software.

 

Were the spares software that came with hardware that you separated from the hardware or were they software upgrades?

 

That seems totally sensible.

 

I've sold software separated from the hardware, with permission from NI.

 

I have had no problem separating paid upgrades from the hardware but the original software had to stay with the hardware.