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[Guide] - Cubase + Maschine MIDI Routing & Integration

Dieses Thema im Forum "MASCHINE Area" wurde erstellt von D-One, 14. Juni 2017.

  1. AlfredN

    AlfredN New Member

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    Thanks D-One, problem seems to be related just to pads, as if they were set to mono polyphony. That's why I'm wondering if there is a mono/poly function for pads.
     
  2. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    A Pad/Sound is the equivalent of Track in a DAW, so the instrument that is loaded on it is where you have the mono/poly parameter, however that parameter should not be affected by other Pads unless you have Choke ON in the Pad Mode menu, also, Choke is a per Group setting meaning one Group wont affect another.
     
  3. Ian_Fu

    Ian_Fu NI Product Owner

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    D'you think it could be related to the 'follow host' option? My Mikro is in for repair so I can't check anything at the moment but it sounds like maybe a similar problem to having the host and daw playing twice?
     
  4. kev2525

    kev2525 New Member

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    Hi all, I am struggling to get Maschine v2.13 to work in Cubase 10.5 on a windows 10 PC. I followed all the steps, but I am not getting any midi out from Maschine into cubase - so when I play the pads there is nothing going from Maschine to Cubase. The midi meter is registering nothing. Strangely, midi is coming from the Cubase timeline into Mashine no problem. Does anyone have any suggestions on settings I need to look at to get this working? It seems I am so close, yet so far....
     
  5. AlfredN

    AlfredN New Member

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    Hi!
    I followed this video and solved all my problems, now I have Maschine totally integrated with Cubase,even what IU use more is the pads and the note repeat lol. But works perfectly How to setup & record Maschine 2 in Cubase 8 (Update 2015) - YouTube, I can guide you if any doubts tho. best!
     
  6. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    What 'follow host' option? Maschine Plugin always follows host, there no way to turn it off.

    You need to check if the MIDI tracks are configured to receive MIDI directly from the Maschine VST, you need to have both the Controller + correct DAW MIDI track active. Upload an example Cubase project if you'd like me to have a look otherwise we can just make 100 guesses on what might be going on.
     
  7. kev2525

    kev2525 New Member

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    Thanks D-one and AlfredN - I got it sorted. It was user error on my side. On the midi track in cubase I chose 'Maschine Mikro in' as the midi input. I didn't notice there was an option to choose 'Maschine 2 - midi out'. Now its working as it should.

    D-One is there a way in cubase to save the track setting for Maschine including all the midi tracks, and audio outs?
     
  8. Uwe303

    Uwe303 Well-Known Member

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    You can save it as track preset
    https://steinberg.help/cubase_pro_a...track_handling_creating_a_track_preset_t.html

    Or if this does not work save the whole project as project template

    Uwe
     
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  9. Ian_Fu

    Ian_Fu NI Product Owner

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    Seems that he has it sorted now so all's good but, for clarification, what I meant was that sometimes in the past I've had problems with software sounding like it's playing twice. In the case of the Roland 808 plugin, it happens when you import midi and don't uncheck the "position lock to daw"
    Screenshot 2021-04-10 at 00.35.56.png Also Screenshot 2021-04-10 at 00.47.52.png
    in the menu, and the same problem in EzDrummer when it was set to follow host.

    In both cases, the DAW was playing the midi that had been imported into the track, but also the pattern that was in the software. The end result being the same notes/sounds either playing twice, or the software continuing to play the pattern when there was no midi in the DAW.

    It turns out that wasn't his problem, but I thought it sounded similar.
     
  10. EnvidiaProductions

    EnvidiaProductions New Member

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    I really wish those pictures could be reuploaded. I can't find a guide as in-depth as this one elsewhere.
     
  11. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    A while ago the forum started to glitch with external images sources, for me the images load fine on some browsers and in others not really, but if it doesn't try right-clicking the icons and selecting "Load Image", works here for Chrome.

    I tried replacing the pics by uploading them manually but there's a 10 pics limit. :S
     
  12. Willam McNelis

    Willam McNelis New Member

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    D-One, what do you say to NI just adding midi output to Mikro? Because instead of performing the 80 steps above using my K-Station from 2004, all I did was plug it into the midi ports and press record. And it worked. With Maschine. Every other thing in the setup identical except I used the K Station instead of the Mikro.
    What do you have to say about a general midi controller from 2004 being able to do it plug and play, but the dedicated Mikro not?
     
  13. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean? Adding a MIDI DIN port? Fine by me...

    Not sure what you're describing, connected the K-Station to what?
    You cant compare a hw synth to a device able to control 16 external synths (or other stuff) + 16 outputs of audio + work as plugin + having its own sequencer...
     
  14. Nicolas Letellier

    Nicolas Letellier New Member

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    Hi, really good tuto ! Thanks a lot.
    I'm facing an issue using an VST instrument (Groove Agent, Kontakt) inside Maschine 2.14.1 as a Cubase 11 plugin.
    I have a Kit loaded on a group : all is fine like in your tuto (midi and audio routing)
    But for instruments inside Maschine it seems that it needs other parameters but I failed to find which ones...
    If I play my Song sync with cubase all is fine but if I drag'n drop midi from Maschine to cubase midi track, set loop mode in Maschine on an empty scene, only the "Kit" track sends data to corresponding Group/Sound in Maschine. So no data for the VST instruments.
    Any ideas or advice ?

    PS : I managed to get something setting : Sound > input > midi > Source = Host.
    I hear the Bass midi track on Midi channel 2 that is my Group B on Maschine (all set on midi 2) but the vst instrument receive the data from the Midi channel 1 too (my drum Kit) as the Kit is on Group A set on midi channel 1. The Bass is Halion sonic instrument, and the instrument loaded on first slot midi channel 1, if I put it on channel 2, I don't hear anything anymore !!!
    It drives me crazy ! :)
     
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  15. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    Humm.. Not sure whats going on over there, send me the Cubase project and I can have a look.
     
  16. Nicolas Letellier

    Nicolas Letellier New Member

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    Actually, I found the solution ! :)
    For the VST instruments loaded on a sound, the Sound MIDI input source has to be on "Host" and if there is multiple instruments loaded on different sound slots, the Group input MIDI routing should have the Key mode "Off". Because if it's set to "Manual" with the MIDI channel to All (because each instrument on each slot should be on a separate MIDI channel), it's a mess with other MIDI data coming from other channels.
    Even if under the Group, the Sound MIDI input channel is set to a specific one.
    Thanks anyway for your quick reply ! ;)
     
  17. Mark Morris

    Mark Morris New Member

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    I just bought myself A Maschine Mk3 and found your integration video on You Tube, not only did this help me understand Cubase integration but I did learn a lot about Maschine as well as all the experimentation I did during and after the tutorial was invaluable, thanks D-One for an excellent tutorial.
     
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  18. kev2525

    kev2525 New Member

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    Hi all, I have managed to set up Maschine Mk3 to my liking, but I have one last question: how to render out the audio best once i have routed my drum group to individual outs. Currently I have a group with 16 drum sounds all routed to Cubase so they play on their own channels. Then I've set it up so the midi is triggering from Cubase - not in maschine. That's all good. But now that I have arranged the midi and want to bounce the midi down to audio how do I do that best? Any pointers?
     
  19. kev2525

    kev2525 New Member

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    HI D-One, thanks for the reply. I have Cubase Pro and on the audio out tracks for Maschine it seems you can't enable record - or at least the way I have it set it up. I looked at the video at the start of this thread and I don't see a record enable button on the video either, unless I missed it.
    I was able to export the tracks and re-import, but that's not really the workflow I'd like...its an extra step I could do without since you need to create another group of audio channels and set up all the routing again.



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  20. Uwe303

    Uwe303 Well-Known Member

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    Hello,

    in cubase, unfortunately, you can't directly record audio from vst Instruments live or from audio tracks if you mean this maybe. You can only record midi directly. There are workarounds for this you can route audio via busses to audio tracks and this way record audio in cubase while tweaking an instrument as far as I remember.


    Uwe

    If you want to record audio use this method, and i also highly recommend the videos from greg