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Headphone lagg

Discussion in 'General DJ Forum' started by junglistbrian, Apr 28, 2013.

  1. junglistbrian

    junglistbrian New Member

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    For starters, core i3, 4g ram, 64 bit windows 7

    Traktor scratch audio 6

    Iv used this for a while even with the same controller im using now, i just dont know if my settings are messed up or what but when i play a track what im hearing in the monitors (headphones) is either a second behind or infront of the speakers, makes mixing almost impossible. lol..

    Any ideas on what is causing this? :(
     
  2. tmccoy

    tmccoy Forum Member

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    How are your speakers setup? Are you going directly to amplified monitor speakers from the Audio 6 or are you going through an external amp? Are you directly in an unobstructed lives of your speakers and is your room reflective?

    Is it really a one second delay, or more like a very small delay? I have seen this when connecting to my friends home theatre amp, which was introducing a tiny processing delay that was definitely out from the headphones of my S4.
     
  3. junglistbrian

    junglistbrian New Member

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    it is a home theater setup, man that would suck it that was the problem.

    i have the audio 6 connected at the usb and an rca going from the one of the channels on the audio 6 into the home theater setup aux, my head phones plugged into the main on the audio 6, it is a small room too if that is what you mean by reflective but i have used this setup before with no problems, the only thing thats changed is the home theater setup.. before it was a normal pa amp, i might be able to bring something else in here and try that for comparison.
     
  4. tmccoy

    tmccoy Forum Member

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    Most home theatre amps are designed to keep audio and video in sync from a source like a DVD/BluRay player, and thus a small processing delay is irrelevant when all outputs are managed by the amp, but when using a more professional audio setup that requires tight latency coupling these issues become apparent.

    So I expect sound reflections are less of an issue than your amp setup. It might be worth reading the amp manual to see if there is some sort of mode that does minimal sound processing to try to solve it?

    It is of course worth considering your speaker reflections, but if your movies sound fine, then focus on the amp configuration for Traktor to minimise processing delay.
     
  5. junglistbrian

    junglistbrian New Member

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    welp, that was it.. i brought in my old pioneer amp from the 80s in here and it sounds fine, lol.. this LG home theater setup is def not going to work for mixing..

    thanks for that idea man, saved me a lot of stress. i guess this newer lg amp will be going in the garage and this old tried and true pioneer will be takings its rightful place in my office, heh.

    Thanks again man, ill advise if it starts up again, but i think we are good to go now.

    :cool:
     
  6. tmccoy

    tmccoy Forum Member

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    Glad to know you sorted it out (and I was right).

    I'm using a beautiful old Harman Kardon 6350R which is on permanent loan from a family member after it was relegated many years ago to a back room CD player. It's been a gem for me - all discrete components, no ICs and sounds beautiful. Limited by modern standards to only stereo - far exceeds the performance of $500 home theatre amps in the market today for these sorts of applications :) much like your old Pioneer, no doubt!
     
  7. junglistbrian

    junglistbrian New Member

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    the one im using is an sx-626 ill probably get some powered monitors soon enough, but this old work horse will work nice until then :D time to toss the LG into the garage..

    :D
     
  8. malzfreund

    malzfreund NI Product Owner

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    most likely, the DSP in your home theater receiver is the culprit. try bypassing the DSP. most receivers have an option that allows you to do just that. look at the manual, it's usally called "direct mode," "pure audio," or something like that.
     
  9. junglistbrian

    junglistbrian New Member

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    cool, ill look into that. id prefer to use the lg if i could because it pushes the sub better