How about a guitar RIG AMP to play live?

Let's face it, after trying and trying, guitar rig sounds phenomenal in the computer, but the options for getting onstage hooked up are non-existent, I mean, in the manual it says to connect to powered speakers, not guitar amp, but power speakers they don't seem to come big enough to sound through a full band playing, and guitar amos don't sound good with Guitar RIG because they need flat response speakers.
Why not a guitar amp designed exclusively for Guitar RIG that is calibrated in the same way it sounds like with headphones, or through power speakers?

 

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But you can use Keyboard amp., if you keep Amp and Cab in the soft.

 

I've taken a different route than many have and so far, its working well.

I've never met a keyboard amp that I have liked the sound of to be honest, they all sound a little shrill thanks to the tweeters and shrill is the last thing you want to hear on a guitar amp. For a round of gigs coming up, I'm going to drop guitar rig in front of a mesa/boogie 2/90 tune power amp, into a proper stereo 2x12 guitar cab (well, mostly proper, its twice as deep as a standard cab, its got some boom!). I'll drop cab sims out of the equation and I'll report back after the gig but, based on some testing in the rehearsal space, it's a monster of a rig.

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A 2/90 should work well- the power amp's essentially flat. I used to use a Simul 295 for my stereo years and years ago.

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Ya, its similar to a rig I used years ago and im comfortable knowing it's going to have some warmth and actual depth to it.

Me and keyboard amps just dont see eye to eye

 

today is the day i try guitar rig out in a live rehaearsal space. suggestions for amp settings and g rig settings? i have a 73 delxe reverb

 

And as a followup, indeed, the tube power amp, a normal 2x12 stereo cabinet sounded spectacular. One word to the wise, do not use cabinet emulations, it really weakens the tone. Two thumbs up from me, I'll never use a keyboard amp again live. They may be suitable in studios or at home but, the tube amp added a nice thump into everything.

 

Over the last few months I researched my live rig amplifier options. I actually experimented with the use of guitar amps, plugging into the PA system mix board, powered monitors and keyboard amps. In the end, based on a number of factors (not only sound quality) I went with a Rolland KC-550 keyboard amp.

The key to making this work was to fine-tune all my presets to sound correct when connected directly to the KC-550 using the specific guitars that I use for each preset. I also did all the preset work with the amp located in a hall the size we normally perform in. I also set the KC-550 EQ controls to the detent position (no added or subtracted EQ) BEFORE I began modifying my presets.

I also made sure that was careful with gain balancing each stage (guitar, GR3 Controller, amp input gain, amp output gain) so that I got full range tone output from the amp.

Since I also take a feed from the line-out of the amp to the FOH mixer in large venues, I also made sure that each preset worked in that way also, or, I made a second preset modified for that use.

All this work was worth it. The presets sound great, and the KC-550 is very easy to move around and is very road-ready and hard to bang-up in normal use.

If you just try to use non-optimized presets with GR3 your not going to be happy with the outcome. If you put in the work, you will be thrilled with the results.

 

do you use two for stereo? I have a KC-350, and I want to eventually get a second one.

 

No, at this time I only have one.

My original plan was to eventually purchase a second KC-550 for stereo operation, however, I have since realized that there is a KC-880 which is a stereo version of the KC-350 essentially. The only downside with the KC-880 is that it has a pair of 12" speakers and I'm not sure they will be optimum. I tried the KC-350 before I purchased the KC-550 and did not find that it reproduced the low-end well enough for my taste. The KC-550 with the 15" speaker did a much better job overall.

So, when I am ready to spend some more cash, I will try out the KC-880 with my current patches and see how that works out. If it does, I will sell my KC-550 and purchase one. If not, I will purchase an additional KC-550.

So far, I have not really found the lack of stereo to be a major problem with the KC-550 since many (if not most) of the GR3 modules are mono and those that are stereo seem to sound fine with summed using the KC-550 stereo inputs. Also, when I use the line-out jacks on the KC-550 to the FOH mix board I get stereo output and use the KC-550 as a personal monitor which works out well since I can place it right in front of me (close by) and reduce any additional latency. On of the problems I had when I tried to connect the GR3 Control directly to the FOH mix board before I purchased the KC-550 was the extra latency I heard going through the standard PA monitor system. Using the KC-550 eliminates this extra latency. However, since there is a time difference between the sound you hear from the KC-550 being used as a monitor and the stage monitors from the PA, I had to have the sound guy cut the level of my guitar in the PA stage monitor in front of me so that I did not have phase problems. This is not a problem unique to using GR3 and it happens with any amp that is being milked and sent to the PA and then sent out to the PA stage monitors so any good sound guy will know how to deal with it.

The bottom line is if you have not purchased an amp yet check out the KC-880 and if you like it that will be a good way to go. If the low end response is not what your looking for try the KC-550 (or two if you want stereo) and spend the time working out the patches and details and you should like the results.

Hope this helps.

 

What to output through?

I am a newbie at this stuff but I have connected GR3 and Kontrol to a 75 watts Line 6 Spider Jam's AUX input and sounded fine but in the house I use an old 12 watts JVC hi-fi amp (at low - mid volume... LOL) with a pair of matching JVC 12 inch speackers and it sound blody fantastic.

I tend to use the Spider Jam... when going Jamming... lol... because of transport space but I miss the stereo feel.

 

has anyone used a Traynor K4? it looks like the ideal GR amp. solid state/tube preamp, stereo, full range, 300 Watts and 60 lbs.