How about video?

As a DJ who doesn't need video, I hope that the video plugin when it arrives costs enough so that it doesn't take resources away from the audio side. Ta!

 

Me Tooo

 

I don't understand the trouble about the resources?
Do you know that ALL the movie that you see on TV and Theatre are made on computer ... And believe me, the movie(audio & visual) editing and mixing are real time since a long time now

 

Yeah, even though I'm not an AVID video fan. (See what I did there?)

Not sure of the relevance of that to Traktor though.

 

I'm more finalcut fan than Avid

I'm saying that most of recent computer can play easily video and audio at the same time for working.

It's always cheaper than 2 pioneer DVJ1000 and the super expensive pioneer SVM 1000.

and did you test Scratchlive and VideoSL plugin from serato.
It work great even on a middle computer ... But I love traktor, so I don't want to go on Serato.

 

Good visual fx are not easy to pull off live, they take large amounts of processing power. Personally I'd rather see ni concentrate on the audio, leave the visuals to the visual vj or artists. If anything all they should be doing is making sure they have a bit of an open backen to midi clock, timings etc, for example allowing audio fx to send out a pulse at different intervals as a midi signal and then in the vj host program you could pick up on this output and sync it to visuals.

 

@ekwipt - that was exactly my thinking - but didn't have the vocabulary. Allow the other program to know what Traktor was playing, tempo, fx, loops, crossfader position etc etc, position of timecode and go crazy with the data.

 

There is only a limited amount of them. If Native Instruments were to spread their current resources from Traktor's audio to video software development, it would mean that getting the existing Traktor bugs fixed would take them even longer than it currently does ... or they would need to recruit some more developers.

If Traktor currently had no bugs or shady features, I would have no objection if the developers did nothing but dance tango 9-to-5. Unfortunately, this is not the case. On my opinion, NI needs to put their best effort into ironing out the still existing minor problems instead of exploring the next frontier. After that... well... after that I for one am a happy camper (and I expect the developers would be quite happy to know that they are in fact building the new stuff on top of a steady foundation).

 

+1, the new midi out controls may help with this if they push it a little further?

 

I tried a lot of configuration between traktor and modul8 ... It work well, but the timecode synchro is terribly missing.
Especialy, because I'm mixing a lot with a cue point, midi controller juggling and looping.
And I really want the video follow the audio.
How can I do that with the new midi clock?
Anybody have an idea?

I'm totally agree with you ekwipt, the vj host program need to kown what traktor is doing in real time.

And believe me, If you work with 2 computer and encode the video in a light processing codec, It will work easy.

 

The only problem there is with having two separate programs is that there is no way the software can know what you are doing with your crossfader unless you have an expensive mixer with a midi assignable crossfader (djm800). So accuratly mixing video's is a no go for most of the people.

I also still don't understand why people are so anxious that having one program doing audio & video will take up too much resources from the computer. I have posted this allready in another thread: I work with Serato video and the Rane TTM57 on a pre-unibody Macbook Pro (not even the fastest processor at that time). It works perfectly! Vinyl timecode control + loops + audio fx + video + video fx all at the same time, no hiccups whatsoever... So basically stop whining about our computers not being able to handle this, it is simply not true.

Also, the persistant attitude of "I don't need it so NI doesn't have to implement it" is ridiculous. Really, it's like saying hey, I never use a flanger effect so it shouldn't be in Traktor.

On a more "friendly" note ;-), I'm just wondering what the people who want video actually expect from it. What would you use it for:
- mixing music videos
- mixing pre-composed custom edited visuals
- having some kind of computer generated visuals to go along the music you're mixing
- something else?

Greetz,
NLS

 

Well I should imagine more people will use a flanger than want video.

Video is nifty but niche. Most people won't use it. And I'd rather NI concentrated on other aspects of the software. I don't think that is a ridiculous attitude and I suspect it is one shared by a lot of people.

 

I think if they developed a midi out standard for evything that happens intraktor like crossfader positions, fx times, filter values etc. It would add to the program not only for video but for audio as well. Programs such as ableton live could read this data.

 

I always said with video support, I would use it for visuals and for doing cool stuff with an advertisement.

I want people dancing and focusing on the music and enjoying the vibes, not staring at a screen.

If I was video dj, that's a totally different story.

 

Traktor Scratch Pro (Video Edition) ?

It seems that the future of DJ-ing may be swinging more towards VDJ-ing – especially in the club scene... Is there any hope that a new edition of Traktor Scratch Pro may one day incorporate the video capabilities of a program such as Serato SL - Video?

Thanks for your time Have a nice day.

 

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81922&highlight=video

 

The only thing I will say is that..

If Serato can pull Video off with stable software and hardware, and not to mention.. freaking NUMARK.... then why can't Traktor. I for one think Traktor already trumps Numark by a long shot and is topping Serato, but only barely, only because it has more features and a substancial product line on the forefront, but no Video. In todays industry thats up and coming it is almost a 'have to' now to have video. All Serato has to do is release software with the same style effects and features as Traktor, and bam Traktors knocked back off by Serato...not to mention Serato has sampling built in...and its colorful. But sampling isnt huge to me, but just nice to have. The color is helpful as well. But wouldn't be a weighted point in my decision. I love Traktor.

I know all you guys keep saying that you would rather Traktor dump all of their efforts into perfecting audio..but when does there ever come a time where you can honestly say "alright thats it, there is nothing more to modify or make better when reffering to audio". NEVER.. so in essence keeping a mindset like that Traktor would never get to look into video production. Traktor damn near would corner the market for this type of software if there was a video option.

I think Video should be an option. Maybe not standard in the software development but be able to purchase the plug in. Im not looking forward to having to buy a whole other software program like Numark or Serato just so that I can run video, which Im about to do shortly.

 

thanks for the link, i will do some searching next time.

 

Video will come, they needed to get Pro off the ground floor because it was totally re-designed.

We'll have to see what 2010 brings. As for me personally I would use the video functionality for backdrops and advertising.

I would love a visualization function as well so I could have some crazy beat driven graphics displayed for added effect/ambience.