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How Can I Connect My Stereo Synth Through My Mono Effect Rack

Discussion in 'REAKTOR' started by Daniel Esrich, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. Daniel Esrich

    Daniel Esrich New Member

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    I have a complete synth instrument build that I would like to run through an effects instrument I am working on a kind of like serums FXs. The problem is all my new effects are in mono and should probably stay that way whilst my outputs for my synth are in L, R. This is important for stereo width and allows me to pan my different oscillators.

    Is there a solution to this? Or will I have to sacrifice my pan controls?

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    This is what's in my effects instrument so far
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  2. colB

    colB NI Product Owner

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    Either update your mono FX to be stereo, or look into Left Right Mid Side encoding, which is a way to apply monophonic processes to a stereo signal symmetrically.
    Why do you think the FX should probably stay mono?
     
  3. Daniel Esrich

    Daniel Esrich New Member

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    I was under the impression that turning some effects into stereo was difficult, maybe that's not the case. I just don't know how to do it for the echo and flanger
     
  4. colB

    colB NI Product Owner

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    where are those fx from?
     
  5. Daniel Esrich

    Daniel Esrich New Member

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    I just built them using videos from ADSR. they are not pre-built macros if that's what you mean?
     
  6. colB

    colB NI Product Owner

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    It's usually pretty simple to convert to stereo - often just duplicating the processing components for the second channel, while sharing the same control inputs.
    The only time it gets more complicated is sometimes with certain FX, there can be phase cancellation issues, in which case, one or more of the signals needs inverted (multiply with -1).
    So yes, it's pretty easy usually.
     
  7. Daniel Esrich

    Daniel Esrich New Member

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    Ok thanks, the one I am struggling with is echo. Which parts should I duplicate and send to another output, and do I need to hardpan them before it?

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    Any help would be amazing, I'm building this for school work and have a deadline soon.
     
  8. colB

    colB NI Product Owner

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    With delay there are various options, it's really up to you to 'design' it how you want it :)

    Probably two delay channels, but then you can choose some blend from 0 to 100% from each input to each channel, you could have some blend on the feedback between channels, maybe some ping pong type of thing... or just keep left and right completely separate, or send the left delay to the right and the right to the left...try stuff out,