How do I export a groove or pattern from Kontakt?

Discussion in 'KONTAKT' started by Musonic, Jun 23, 2013.

  1. Musonic

    Musonic New Member

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    I've been searching for hours now and it's really destroyed my inspiration. Kontakt is a great product, but the advanced controls can be bewildering for the average user. I'm so frustrated at this point I could scream! I realize this may not be the best way to get help, but there HAS to be some way to do this....

    In Kontakt, there are a few drum machines I really like, for example "Concertmate Drum Kit". Most of them have preset patterns (or grooves?) you can trigger by pressing a note on your keyboard. This is great for live stuff, but for recording it is almost useless. I want to export the pattern of choice to my DAW, e.g., drag and drop that whole pattern as a MIDI pattern to my MIDI track in my DAW. I've been screwing around with this for hours, going through every single option and editor, and I just can't figure it out. Is it even possible? I can tweak everything else to the point of absurdity, but I can't export a simple pattern? What's the point then?

    You can do this with Studio Drummer rather easily: just pick a groove pattern and drag it to a MIDI track in your DAW. In fact, I've created patterns with Studio Drummer and played them with different drum instruments.

    If this is possible, please let me know, so I can stop obsessing over this. :eek:
     
  2. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Moderator Moderator

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    Studio Drummer is scripted with that feature in mind. However, on older products that are preceding Kontakt 5, you cannot do it like that - instead you have to enable Kontakt outputting scripted MIDI notes in Kontakt's Options->Engine->send MIDI to the outside world dropdown. Then you can record Kontakt's output as MIDI directly.
     
  3. Malacai Kenji

    Malacai Kenji New Member

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    With the new version of Kontakt 5, or the free Kontakt player, you click the "midi" circle button near the bottom right of the interface and can drag it into your DAW. I'm updating this answer because I kept getting this page while searching how to do it :)
     
  4. Graham C

    Graham C NI Product Owner

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    Another late comer to this but (EvilDragon ?) how to route DAW to see the incoming MIDI? I did try setting (Damage) to "send MIDI to the outside world" but don't see any input in DAW.
     
  5. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Moderator Moderator

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    This really depends on your DAW. Some don't support MIDI output from instrument plugins (AFAIK Logic).

    In Reaper, for example, I don't need to do anything special for the MIDI output from Kontakt to feed another instrument.
     
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  6. mbira

    mbira NI Product Owner

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    I am trying to export a drum pattern from the Discover Africa library. In both Cubase and Ableton the midi that exports is several octaves off and there are some double notes. Also there are generally different notes coming out than what is being played on the little GUI keyboard within Kontakt. I'm not sure what is going on. I have enabled the two options you listed above and made sure there is no midi input enabled. I've also tried it from both a VST and then sending over a virtual MIDI driver from the standalone version and no difference. I guess now I'll try and see if reaper can do it.

    Yep-just checked it in Reaper. Same doubled and weird notes in wrong octaves. If anyone wants to check to see if they are having better luck, I am trying to export the drum pattern "Kounbe" from the Discover Africa library. I am pushing the second "A" from the bottom of the keyboard (a red key) and trying to export that pattern.
     
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  7. EvilDragon

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    You won't be able to do that, because internally West Africa is using different notes to trigger different sounds, and they don't match the keycolored areas fully (or at all).
     
  8. mbira

    mbira NI Product Owner

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    That's pretty odd since when you push down a red pattern key it visibly plays the other keyboard notes that make up the pattern and if you play those same notes with a keyboard then those are the notes of the pattern. Why in the world would they do that? It's like they intentionally want to make this stuff not work.
     
  9. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Moderator Moderator

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    Yes, but when you go into instrument edit mode and play those other colored keys (have Mapping Editor open!), you will see that each of those keys actually triggers yet another different key internally, depending on which hit it needs to play. This is what creates all those double notes.


    Basically, no, you cannot record exactly the notes the red keys play. So just record the red key and that's it. This is why they added MIDI files to India and Cuba, but West Africa is an older library and they didn't update it with those MIDI files...
     
  10. mbira

    mbira NI Product Owner

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    Thanks. I'll take a look deeper in the midi mapping editor there to better understand.