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Hyperion Strings Elements in Kontakt: Keyswitch & Range issues

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Victor Kennedy, Oct 3, 2019.

  1. Victor Kennedy

    Victor Kennedy NI Product Owner

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    I have Soundiron Hyperion Strings Elements and have questions about the Key Switches and keyboard range. I hope my explanation is not too rambling and convoluted.


    Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated…I hope I’ve explained the issue clearly.


    I’m using an N.I. Kontrol S61 keyboard with Hyperion in Kontakt. There’s no problem getting the Ensemble or the individual instruments to load and play, but I can’t figure out how to access the KeySwitches while still being able to play all of the notes in the ensemble or instrument.


    Scenario 1: With the Ensemble loaded and S61 in default Octave settings (ie: not shifted up or down) the lowest note I can play is C1, which is the C note one octave above the lowest Bass note in Ensemble-C0, and the highest note playable is C6, the highest note of Violins in Ensemble-C6.

    To play lower Bass notes I’d need to go down 1 Octave, losing half the Violins range. This would also still not give access to Keyswitches.


    This means I have to set S61 to -2 Octaves in order to access the Keyswitches and play the lowest Bass note, which in turn means the highest playable note is C4, which is in the Viola range on the Ensemble…no Violins in range.


    I know we can change the range of instruments in Ensemble and also re-assign the Keyswitches to different notes, but in Ensemble mode, how do I play all the instruments including Violins while also accessing the Keyswitches?



    Scenario 2: In order to have only one instance of Kontakt in Pro Tools and get separate outputs for each instrument, I have Kontakt loaded on an Aux channel in Pro Tools, 3 more Aux channels to make a total of 4 individual outputs coming into Pro Tools from Kontakt, with all 4 Instrument Masters loaded to slots within Kontakt ie: Violin Master, Viola Master etc.


    I have Midi channels 1,2,3,4 assigned to relevant instruments in Kontakt and can play everything and have individual channels for processing in PT.



    What seems to happen is that I can’t see how to get control of the articulations for each ‘Instrument Slot’ in Kontakt…if I change the Keyswitch settings on one instance, such as Violin, it some how affects the other instrument slots.

    Also, the Keyboard display at the bottom of Kontakt doesn’t reflect the instrument I’m playing.


    AND one last thing…is it possible to have individual outputs to the DAW for each ‘instrument’ when Ensemble is loaded?


    I wait the hovering fingers…
     
  2. Omar17166

    Omar17166 NI Product Owner

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    How disappointing it must be for you Victor. More than 4 months later and no answer or suggestion? Shows how much some people care! I have similar Q, but it seems useless to try here.
     
  3. Omar17166

    Omar17166 NI Product Owner

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    Hi again Victor.. I am a newbie in this one. But one question to try and understand: Must you play and change articulation live? Why not record everything first and put the articulation notes (switches) afterwards?
    Another thing, you can create an AUX track for your kontakt track and record the articulation notes there.. I.e. you need to lower the octave on your keyboard by 3-fold to achieve, for example, C-1. Myself I am using an Arturia Minilab MKII (a modest 25 keys). It works for me like that.
    Another suggestion, which seems to be used by seasoned composers, is to create templates. I.e. many instances (tracks) of the same kontakt instrument but each with a different articulation. You can do that for the few articulations you use most often.
     
  4. Paule

    Paule NI Product Owner

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  5. Omar17166

    Omar17166 NI Product Owner

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    Thanks for the clarification Paule!
     
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