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If there is a Stand Alone Maschine in the making, speak up NI.

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by Coorec, Jan 15, 2017.

  1. theinvis

    theinvis NI Product Owner

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  2. Olihop

    Olihop NI Product Owner

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    For my opinion I am not for a standalone maschine. The only thing that could be interesting to integrate for me in the next version of maschine is a self powered usb3 sound card with a headphone jack, a jack input and a master output. But I do not know if it's technically possible.
     
  3. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    I highly doubt that NI would make a standalone unit and leave their Komplete ecosystem behind. NI specifically rejiggered Maschine to support Komplete, I doubt they are going to drop that cash cow now.
     
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  4. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    For someone who complains about Akai's crappy drivers/hardware/software you sure call NI tech support a lot.
     
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  5. skinswashdc

    skinswashdc Well-Known Member

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    New Maschine Controllers this year or January 2018. I'm calling it!
     
  6. Spazoo

    Spazoo NI Product Owner

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    ok but you call stuff or say "book it" every year and it never pans out.
     
  7. skinswashdc

    skinswashdc Well-Known Member

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    Trying to be optimistic for myself. Of course I'm going to be wrong. Let's see what happens. I'm hyped the korg stuff as of now.
     
  8. Spazoo

    Spazoo NI Product Owner

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    nothing wrong with being optimistic. yeah the korg stuff is cool. i'm hoping for a new workstation from roland.
     
  9. skinswashdc

    skinswashdc Well-Known Member

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  10. CoolDerb

    CoolDerb Forum Member

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    That capability has existed since 1999. Nothing new or innovative there.
     
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  11. kb420

    kb420 NI Product Owner

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    I agree. They're trying to sell that like it's something new. What's so special about that? That's always been a possibility.
     
  12. theinvis

    theinvis NI Product Owner

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    it's not what you do it's how you do it and how you bring it all together.
     
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  13. Coorec

    Coorec NI Product Owner

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    At one point in history they NEVER had done controllers and interfaces before either. So thats not really a valid argument.

    Every once in a while things change. And a company either stays up to date or will fail in the long run. NI has proven to be smart enough to react to market changes, and most of the time even used them to their advantage. Unless they became very complacent, i guess they already calculated every possibilty and prepared for several options.
     
  14. jpeg

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    i think its very unlikely that ni will do standalone; u talk of NI becoming complacent; what do u call taking 2 years off developing maschine; and focusing other stuff that people are less interested in? that is complacence and and sheer arrogance, its disrespectful to users.
     
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  15. Coorec

    Coorec NI Product Owner

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    No, i didnt.

    To answer a question how anyone could get the idea NI should/would work on a standalone Maschine, I said if they did not become complacent, then they will be prepared for future developments. I said that, because i dont think a successfull company like NI runs on complacency. They've already proven this by re-allocating ressources to work on Machine. They knew the pressure was going to come and prepared for it. Wether it happened timely and thoroughly enough remains to be seen.

    7 years is a long time to successfull market a technological concept in our fast paced time. NI is smart enough to know that they have to react to the growing market of mobile use of music technology. Its an emerging megatrend they are not likely to ignore.

    Laptop, audio/midi interface and controller is not very mobile to modern standards. Its also not the most reliable solution on stage and needs regular upgrading. Hence my interest in a standalone solution.
     
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  16. dreddiknight

    dreddiknight NI Product Owner

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    I think the point is they have been complacent. And very obviously so.
     
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  17. jpeg

    jpeg Forum Member

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    FACTS!! complacency set in a long time ago
     
  18. jpeg

    jpeg Forum Member

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    er yes u did mention complacency but I suspect ur brand loyalty prevented u from seeing the complacency as past and present tense; so u see it as possible future occurrence.

    ur problem is ur thinking and making conjecture that sounds good; but if u observe NI's behavior post 2.0 till now it does not match ur conjecture.

    NI have proved nothing; u think NI cannot successfully run on complacency? thats the point of building a brand that people are loyal too, then the follower will overlook shortcomings and missteps and go along with any old trash and rhetoric they put out, much as u and skins and other have.

    If they knew pressure was coming the would have had enuff foresight not to shift resources an focus away from maschine for two years; without telling loyal customer what they were doing.

    how many standalone /hybrid drum machines workstations are there? and yet u call it a megatrend? this is ur conjecture but there is no evidence to spport what ur saying.

    im not saying that it wont become a trend but at this point its all hot air and ur own thinking.
     
  19. CakeAlexS

    CakeAlexS NI Product Owner

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    Generally happens when marketing dept controls a whole organisation imho.
     
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  20. Coorec

    Coorec NI Product Owner

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    Dont think i am dense, just because i try to be polite. I know all of NI's flaws. I still dont think they are complacent, however i do think they were ignorant.

    I called mobility a megatrend, not stand alone drum machines. Thats a difference. What i mean is, the world moves away from laptops towards mobile devices.
    However the MPC live certainly represents the mobile future better than the laptop + audio interface based Maschine, or Push or Spark or whatever else there exists.

    In our final wishes and perceptions, i think we are in agreement. We just have different approaches how to get there.