intel core i3/i5 (ice lake) cpu and traktor pro 3

So, the last weekend showed that there are no freezes on the i5 (MBP20), except of one club where there are groundings problems (and at this club MBA2020 was to freeze very often)
Whatever it was, I decided to keep the MBP2020
Even if the MBA2020 freeze because of the grounding problem, I will still sell it anyway
MBP2020 is much better
yes MBA2020 freezing in other clubs (in each) but it was before a special method reinstalling MACOS (was described before)
After fixing the problem of slow loading files at the decks I've only tested the MBA at one club (where the grounding problem is)
And again reinstalling/testing will lower the price on the secondary market and spend a lot of time!
Therefore, I still believe that the slow loading at the deck and freezing problems are related
And we need to understand why this is happening

 

At friday and yesterday too, I had a multi-freeze on the new macbook pro!!!
In different clubs (once in each) but multi!
I mean when a lot of f-f-f-f-f-fr-r-r-re-ez-z-z-z-zin-n-ng is long time (a few seconds)
and when it passes, then everything is fine all night!!!
WTF!!!?
Maybe it's improvement catalina 10.15.5? (better expand battery charging)
I just transferred everything from the old macbook through the timemachine (including the work of this innovation for ~2 years)
why did everything work before and now it can't!!!!

 

And i didn't have separate dropouts (freezing by 0.2-0.5sec) at all on the new macbook

 

Today I got freeze 2 times on MBP2020!
what the hell is going on!?
SUPPORT is silent!
why everything worked on MBP2017 and does not work as it should on MBP 2020 (and on MBA2020 to)

 

I updated Traktor to version 3.5.1 and went back to the long loading tracks at the deck issue again
I reinstall Traktor (following the advice of NI access) but it didn't solve the issue
However, following the path /applications/Native Instruments/Traktor Pro 3/Backup
I found the icons of previously installed Traktors (all from 3.0) and launched Traktor version 3.4.0 237 (which was before the update to 3.5.1)
To my surprise, the issue of slow loading deck in this version is solved!
I can make a detailed video report about it!
Why is this issue still there?
do I have to use the old version for the rest of my life?

 

TP 3.5.1
AND
TP 3.4.0

 

why such a weak utilization?

https://youtube.com/shorts/WRIAANYjJr8?feature=share

 

I have a few questions:
-Why the loading time at the decks of the same file in 8 times different between Traktor 3.4.0 from macOS backup (timemachine) and Traktor 3.5.1 after the update (or clean install)?
-Why is CPU utilization so weak and getting lower over time about 13-15% to 4-5% sometimes in the clubs I see 1-2% (buffer size is 64 or 128!)
I using Intel Power Gadget for monitoring
Is this normal? оn MBP2017 utilization lower than 30% (i used buffer size 128 on MBP2017)
Even when I do the analyze tracks (parallel processing is on), the utilization is only 50-60% on MBP2017 it was 90-100%
Is the Traktor optimized good for ice lake?

 

Can someone tell me what to do?
I'm already starting to think that I shouldn't have sold MBP2017,
but I want to be wrong

 

I had (a bit) the same isue (core i3 6006u - windows) after update to 3.5.1 when ive loaded track i had micro freeze of sound. Shortly ive restored my traktor backup settings from beginning of 2021 (traktor 3.4.0 - first version with smartlists) and BOOM! Four decks, heavy flack files almost 20hr of testing no glitches. The reason is propably during backup to newer, and never version is somewhere some setting combination cosing glitches

Try my settings (backup yours )

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kf0Fif3CDXL2OAwLCje4SQmQrVxOQopr/view?usp=sharing

 

while there is no time to do this - other tasks are in front of me
but I found out why the traktor does not use full cpu utilization
if your cpu has 4 cores or threads (it doesn't matter) then during analization with a parallel process is on there will be ~100% utilization
if your cpu has more than 4 cores or threads, for example, as my cpu (i5-10600k) in my desktop (windows) has 6\12 cores\threads
All this will be used in total ~30% utilization
if you disable cores from the bios or even from the os
the situation will look like this
2cores/4threads - 100%
4cores/4threads - 100%
4cores/8threads - 50%
3cores/6threads - 70%
6cores/12threads - 30%
(try it, I used a intel power gadget for monitor utilization)
I assume that the traktor simply does not know how to work with more than 4 cores or threads!
it also render affects during normal work (during performances) 2 cores/4 threads were loaded by 30% on MBP2017 and MBA2020
however, my new MBP2020 (4 cores\8 threads) in the same scenario is loaded only by 15%!
NI welcome to the year 2022 ))))))
4CORES!!!! WHAT!?

 

And what is the problem? Four decks four threads. It could possibly use more threads, but why? And also it depends, how you have tested it. Stems could possibly use more threads and so on.

Also, one would have look at the load of individual cores to judge how many cores/ threads is used. And even that would not tell the whole story. Program may create 100 threads and they may be placed on one core, if OS or program decides so.

 

the time spent on analyzing would be less if all 12 threads were used as 4 at 100%
I'm reproducing it on
win10 (i5-460m 2core/4threads) - 100%
win10 (i5-3570k 4core/4threads) - 100%
win10 (i5 - 10600k 6core/12threads) - 30%
MBP2020 (i5-1038ng 4core/8threads) - 50%
MBP2017 (I5-7260U 2core/4threads) - 100%
MBA2020 (I3-1000NG 2core/4threads) - 100%
and on computers of my friends'
MBP2013 (i7 ???? 4core/8threads) - 50%
MBP2020 (M1 8core via rozetta2) - 50% - time spent ~ like at MBP2017 (I5-7260U 2core/4threads) - 100% (playtist 249 tracks takes ~3min)
all these tests have been done repeatedly!
And here we are talking only about analyzing
About the performance situation:
Ok i will try tu use more by Stems on win10 (i5 - 10600k 6core/12threads) and MBP2020 (i5-1038ng 4core/8threads)
but now in normal scenarios, these processors are almost not used! And I have problems on MBP2020 with freezing and dropouts!

 

OK, they use about 4 threads for analyzing tracks. Traktor scans about 80 tracks per minute. What's the problem?

 

thats the problem

 

I agree when there are 80 tracks at all but when there are 15,000?
I waited for ~ 2...3 hours

and could have been 2 times less!

 

And I think even if I use 4 decks of steam and all kinds of effects I won't be able to use more then this:
MBP2020 (i5-1038ng 4core/8threads) - 50%
win10 (i5 - 10600k 6core/12threads) - 30%
i think it maximum that the traktor can give me

and as a result of everything:

 

Strange, that you are the only one who has problems.

 

are you talking about friezes and dropouts?

 

I didn't have any problems on MBP2017 (i5-7260u) and even on windows laptop (i5-460m) I don't have them, I only have them on MBP2020 (i5-1038ng) and what computer do you have?
I think traktor can't work correctly at new processors with new software or hardwar energy saving
I noticed some correlation about the plugin/rplugout power supply and friezes at MBP2020

From 1:30 frizees start on! i just plugin power supply and whait few seconds
in another club, I plugout the power supply and after a few seconds the deck can just stop for 1-2-3 sec! And that moment cpu util can down from 15% to 2-3%!!!!!
this has never happened with MBP2017 I've used it for 4 years in hundreds clubs