interesting...

Whaaat?!
I´m definetly not sensitive!
But as an newbie in music I will receive some feedback from all of you.
That`s why I post my music at soundcloud...

Later on when I receive more and more likes and reposts it`s time to keep my treasure... to sell it

Greetings SC

 

That´s correct. I wish I could have some usable comments from those thread.

 

Well, the OP said he was only complaining about the 1%. Isn't that how it always goes?

There are many valid reasons not to post your music on a user-supported support site:

• You just don't feel like it. This is me.
• You think your stuff probably sucks a bit. This is me too!
• You are hoping to release it and/or have some contractual obligation to honor. Sometimes you have to protect your intellectual property until the right time.
  
• You flat-out don't own the rights. Just because you're making the sounds, drawing the characters, animating the little fishies under the sea, that doesn't mean you can share it. I know people on some other forums who are under NDA and can't share their projects because they're working on content for video games, movies, etc.
• You just don't feel like being pressured into stuff. Leave me alone! By the way, I say that nicely and with all due respect!

I agree with the poster who said these types of threads go nowhere.

This is a support site. There are no rules except that we not cuss too much and be nice to each other. If somebody doesn't want to share, that's their prerogative. Even if they're cussing too much and bringing you bad Karma or untuned vibes (see what I did there? ). What somebody else decides to do or not to do should not impact my life in the least. If I let it impact me, then it's me who needs work, not the 1%.

I vote that we all deal with it and move on.

 

do you really believe this mezz?

I'd love for you to tell me how you're able to discern what is or is not essential for any other musician making music ?

How is it possible that you could skip over such a simple notion of 'if you yourself don't use a particular feature in your music then of course it is not essential to you but if someone does use said feature it's a different story altogether. My question is why is this such a difficult concept to grasp around here?

your ski beats analogy only gave proof to a train of thought counter to your own, so ski beats doesn't use the features you use, so then that means the features you use are not essential and ni should take them out right, I mean ski beats doesn't use them so your needs are obviously non-essential and invalid.

 

^ I get what you ARE SAYING.

 

haha this is what they must look like if they ever saw Rick Rubin using maschine.

 

You don't post music, you can't have an opinion........grow up
I have been on this forum longer than you, my opinion has more validity.........grow up
That feature is not essential to me, so it is obviously not essential to you.......grow up

Opinions are opinions, anybody who does not understand this, really shouldn't be posting on the internet, you have heard of the internet right ? that thing where every single other entity you will ever interact with has their opinion and because they have no fear of face to face conflict, will state the opinion with ferocity, sometimes being over the top with that ferocity because they would never dream of doing so face to face and have to over compensate.
You have heard of that place right ?
Now just to reiterate........grow up, it is a piece of music gear, not the new messiah FFS

 

Want to know what else is interesting? The correlation between climate change and the decrease in the number of pirates world wide! It's obvious that we can draw meaningful conclusions about climate change by examining the root causes that led to a decrease in swashbuckling...

More seriously, this correlation you've picked out is a non sequitur. It seems like there is a small number of forum members that you have issues with, and you've latched onto the fact that they don't post their music. You could have just as easily pointed out how interesting it is that these people would also all use letters to form words, or wear pants at some point.

As someone that has no interest in posting my music on a forum, and tries my best to contribute to discussions in a positive way, I find this entire thread mildly offensive and rather annoying.

I realize that you aren't intending to insult everybody that doesn't post thier music, but your crass execution of calling out the individuals you have issues with has pretty much amounted to just that.

Perhaps you would consider being more explicit about which forum members aren't contributing (in your opinion) and how posting their music might help to counter act that?

While I don't think it's necessary to have active links to your music, I do think it would be totally fine for people to request links in cases where it might help provide clarity or increase the depth in which a technique is being discussed.

 

They are not essential. I repeat they are not essential to making music with Maschine. You keep thinking that I'm saying that because of my workflow. You have no idea what my workflow involves or what i deem necessary to making music. However, that doesn't stop Ski Beatz, Trent Reznor, and countless others from using maschine. It's a tool. That's what people don't seem to get. They would rather complain about the tool. My tracks aren't defined by my tool. If Maschine doesn't do what I need it to do, I use something else. It's really that simple and it's what I've been saying from the get go across, multiple topics and posts on here.

Also you obviously have issues with reading comprehension. I never said NI should take anything out. Read my post I said that Ski can make music with the tools that are already there. He didn't complain about what the Maschine couldn't do and in-fact was quite enthusiastic with what it can do. In-fact most of the audience who were former MPC users were quiet enthusiastic about what Maschine can do for them now, not what machine can't do for them. They seem to be able to use it fine. Again read my post. I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH NEW FEATURES! What I do take issue with is the constant whining about what Maschine supposedly can't do but there are plenty of people who can use it to make tracks, professional or otherwise.

So spare the whole my workflow, your workflow crap. This about the fundamentals of what Maschine does, nothing in Maschine as it is now precludes you from making music. If you need tempo changes to make music then Maschine isn't the tool for you and you should have never bought it to begin with.

 

THIS.

No one opposes the addition of great features. Many of us are just incredibly annoyed by the constant Maschine/NI bashing that dominates this forum (and then the bashing of the people who mention that they are annoyed with the bashing).

It's also annoying that the bashers want to take credit for every feature addition since Maschine 1.0, as if nothing would have been improved if they hadn't incessantly complained on a USER forum that represents a small percentage of overall Maschine users. They use Maschine's incremental improvements over the years as "proof" to further justify their hostile attitudes on here. There are more effective and efficient ways to make your voice heard at NI without bickering with other members of this community.

 

you both sound like climate change deniers.
there are so many inaccuracies and assumptions in your post that it hardly makes any sense to respond.
you have allot of nerve bringing up reading comprehension, do us both a favor and tell me when I ever
said anything like maschine precludes you from making music ? , When did I ever say that the fact that maschine does not do tempo changes and that because of that I don't use it?.... you see the reason that makes what your claiming especially busll_shitty is that you know how I use machine already. you know from numerous conversations that I use it for what it does and not what it doesn't
you know that I'm one of those mpc users thats enthusiastic about maschines sound design capability and it's resampling prowess etc...
which has nothing to do what so ever with what I'm unenthusiastic about in maschine.
how do you know ski beats doesn't wish he could do tempo changes in maschine in an intuitive manner and how do you know he doesn't talk about it...... because he didn't make a video about it? is that it ?.. . well I haven't made a video about any of machines omissions myself so that doesn't mean anything. How many maschines have you purchased for other people? Many people have purchased maschine through my recommendations and I've purchased maschine for other people beside myself, on top of that you seen me on numerous occasions on this forum tell people who said that they were going to get rid of maschine and repace it with something else that they might want to hold off from doing that as there isn't anything else that actually replaces maschine yet and that it's like apples and oranges when it comes to other choices out on the market right now so in my opinion the whole methodology of your post is f'kd..... because you're not telling the truth, playing dumb, and making assumptions and that's a no no.
how the hell are you gonna say don't give you that 'your workflow my workflow crap', ..... that's what it's all about, that's what maschine is suppose to be all about, that's what grooveboxes are all about.

so what if you use other instruments to compensate for what machine can't do, we all do, you know none of the things ever discussed here can be done on maschine and we all talk about augmenting maschine with other instruments and programs you act like christopher columbus and **** discovering america, look dude we all use maschine only for what it can do there is no choice in that but like you and I use other gear in conjunction with maschine there are others who don't have the other gear you have and only have a maschine. You really need to re-read your own post cause you are making allot of assumptions about everybody.
I can understand that you and Jdownsbird don't agree with my post and feel all pissy about it but ya'll should leave it at that because there's more truth and less assumptions in that sentence than anything you write. why are you guys even in threads where people are discussing what and how they would like to be improved in maschine? I'm not saying you don't have the right I'm just saying what gives you the right to come in and tell people not to have the discussion?

 

to a degree yes cos some dudes approach music from a super technical perspective and have recommendations based on technicalities that may not be required to may music.

maschine does not need every single feature in order to be an effective music making platform

also consider a fat out of shape person spouting health and vitality info; u prolly would not take them serious

or a tramp giving talks about wealth and prosperity and abundance

 

jpeg hahaha lol man i hope you never stop posting... this thread could use some lightening up but hey.. does that philosophy really pan out cause you know that fat person could just be big boned and just because someone is a tramp or overweight which really i hesitate to use in the same paragraph but anyway that doesn't mean that they don't know the difference between eating healthy, thats like saying that none of us know that we aren't eating healthy when eating all the junk food we've eaten but surely most of us are aware of that.
the quality of someones music is in the ear of the beholder anyway isn't it so what base value could it really have?

 

cant take no philosophy
don't follow no analogy
its ability versus competence?
so its money or fat guy flatulence?

A thread about what idk
get your music out put it on show
whine about whiners now that's a treat
shoot yourself in the foot, aint that neat

rose colored glasses don't change no facts
Maschine got limits and that's a fact
Revolutionary "new" features that's a must
back to the future 2005 or bust


The above recorded at a fixed tempo, not because I wanted to, but because someone decided that's how music is made.

 

glad ur amused bro i agree with this to a degree,
but if u hear someones music and the drums are stiff and robotic unintentionally or the samples are poorly looped or the bass is pitched so it dont blend with the song then clearly the person cant put a basic pattern together so they opinion is next to worthless.

also the dont think anyone can deny climate change if u live in london the weather is sunny one day and rainy the next that is climate change.

but the notion that c02 is the key driver of climate change and as a result each person should pay a cabon tax is a pure fraud

 

well now the notion (which you didn't make) that we have no responsibility for our industrial actions as a people is just as much a fraud.

and just because someone doesn't have the skill to create a good mix doesn't mean that they don't have the ears to recognize one.

 

u have no responsibility for industrial actions because those are private companies of which u are not a stake holder or CEO

if they had ears they would be able know that they mix is fucced and correct it the fact they cant do that means they cant hear or they have not ability to correct.

but u have these guys saying that certain features should not be developed because it does not fit with their personal vision of what the instrument is; is a joke.

 

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and just because someone doesn't have the skill to create a good mix doesn't mean that they don't have the ears to recognize one.[/quote]
+1 and what is crucial to understand is that any good or bad artist cannot say i'am good but my public isn't cause this should be a total non sens ... what artist can we be or desire to become if we consider that people that appreciate us are not competent for that ?

 

looks like there has been climate change going on in London since 1600 (or whatever the correct date is) when they starting logging temperature and weather changes.

seriously London has been known for changeable weather for centuries.

sowari