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Is battery 3 multitimbral?

Discussion in 'BATTERY' started by manOtunes, Dec 1, 2006.

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  1. manOtunes

    manOtunes Forum Member

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    I just bought and received battery 3. It looks amazing and complex. I'm sure i'll be learning about it for quite a while. I'm very concerned though, that i can't seem to find a way to use it on multiple midi channels.

    Do i need to load an entirely new instance of B3 for every drum kit?
    Please tell me that i missed something.

    I was hoping to load one instance and then have 16 different kits loaded.
     
  2. ew

    ew Moderator Moderator

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    Yes, you need a separate instance for each.

    I'm bewildered as to why you'd need 16 kits at once anyways...

    ew
     
  3. sevaels

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    Acutally last post was rude. I can see though where 16 kits could be of use...use your imagination...I'm sure youll come up with something.
     
  4. ew

    ew Moderator Moderator

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    How was it rude? I was just stating that I was wondering why he'd need 16 kits.

    Your post, on the other hand...

    ew
     
  5. manOtunes

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    Agreed. Thanks sevaels. The way i like to work is to have massive amounts of beats, hits, and samples at my fingertips while writing. When I'm in the writing flow, i feel like my creativity is slowed if i'm forced to search for sounds. That's why i bought such an expensive computer. so i can have a huge palette waiting for me to just click and play. it's very inspiring if i've already personally picked all the sounds i like best.

    according to the logic of the last poster, there would never be a need for multitimbrality with any sampler. this is of course absurd. When a product touts itself to be the professional/ultimate choice, multitimbrality is only one of many reasonable expectations. i only regret that i didn't enquire about it before buying it. Still, i'm confident that the mac pro 3ghz, 8 gig ram should be able to handle multiple instances, and battery looks to be an amazing tool.
     
  6. sevaels

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    Hey EW,

    Sorry wasn't clear about that. I meant my post before edited was rude and in case anyone read it I wanted to apologize.

    Anyway, I believe (And since you are a moderator and therefore work for NI.) that Rolands founder said it best when he emphasized that the manufacturer should never tell the musician/artist what he should and shoudln't need in an instrument and most certainly never how to use it.

    Just off the top of my head. A very cool trick I like in old trackers is being able to switch from kit to kit instantly within the same track. This was somewhat emulated in Phatmatik pro with it being multitimbral. This way I could have subtle variations in drum kits that would allow me to simply adjust the midi lane in order to emphasize say a new snare or a totally diff. kit with the same groove etc etc.

    I listened to some of your tracks EW and can understand why youd have no need for such a function (Absolutely not an insult in any way...very nice tracks actually :D) but if you were to listen to Venetian Snares' latest works youd see a great need for a multitimbral Battery.

    Sorry for the confusion about my prior post.

    Sev
     
  7. ew

    ew Moderator Moderator

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    Not a problem... thanks for clarifying that.

    And no, I'm not an employee. Very few of us mods are.

    ew
     
  8. ew

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    Anyways, back to the subject...

    Yeah, your current machine should handle anything you can throw at it, but extra help's always appreciated. Using Battery as a multitimbral device would place the whole shebang on one core. Using multiple instances, the load would spread out over both cores, alternating cores per instance (if your host's multicore friendly, which I'm presuming it is).

    ew
     
  9. manOtunes

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    i appreciate that ew. i certainly like the sound of efficient core use. I use logic. i assume that logic, made by apple, must surely be multi-core friendly, right?

    On a related subject, do you know if simply having various instances loaded, packed with samples, would put a great deal of strain on the computer if i'm not actually using most of the sounds?

    As i mentioned in my last post, my goal is to have massive amounts of sounds available, (mostly streaming direct from disk rather than in RAM)
    but i only intend to use a small fraction of sounds at any one time. i just want the sounds to be available.
     
  10. ew

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    Logic's multiprocessor/core friendly; it was one of the first to be that way.

    You WILL see some added CPU load from extra instances, but not much; maybe 1% at most. And, if you aren't playing any notes, the CPU level will stay there.

    Another big advantage of using multiple instances is that you'll have up to 32 outs per instance, instead of up to 32 outs for the whole multi-timbral plugin.

    ew
     
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