Is it possible to load Kontakt kits into Battery 4?

If not, why not?
If yes, how?
or is there workarounds? (like sample export etc.)

I noticed that the Drummers kits are stored compressed...

Anyone?

Cheers.

 

The short answer is NO.

Two different instruments with some different, but very important feature sets. One prime example is the scripting possibilities within Kontakt that doesn't exist in Battery.

You could possibly import samples from Kontakt if you can figure out how to decompress the audio files (someone else who visits this forum may know how to do this, I don't), but the amount of work involved turning them into Battery kits would put me off. I prefer just to use the Kontakt drum kits within Kontakt, which is how they are designed and meant to work. And you can still take advantage of any scripting and effects that are part of each instrument, which of course, would no longer be available within Battery.

 

I think important the snare from a Kontakt drum set into Battery should definitely be made possible. Doing it manually wouldn't be that much of a problem... it's really easy to load samples into Battery and map them. The problem indeed is the decompression of the files.

I think NI's drumming stuff is a mess at the moment. It's not a proper strategy. It's just some instruments thrown to the market and people need to load Maschine, Battery and Kontakt into their DAW and have a mess of channels to get some modern groove going. It's bloat. I hope they will improve on that on the next Major release of the family.

 

They don't NEED to. It's all user's choice. Those who don't use Battery at all will use the Kontakt kits. Those who use Battery likely won't use Kontakt kits. Different types of users, and NI is catering to them all. Battery has a specific usage, mostly for urban music, not so much for getting the most realistic acoustic drumkit sounds - that's Kontakt's area. That's why NI diversifies their product range. Nobody's forcing you to use Maschine, Battery and Kontakt at the same time.

 

That's not the reality. Since the Beastie Boys there is convergence of Rap and Heavy Metal, and there will be Genre fusion all the way... actually real drums and machine drums are a natural marriage, especially when it comes to modern tunes. There should be know wall between those things.

Currently I don't see a good alternative than to use multiple instruments in parallel in my DAW and to live with the mess.

 

Good luck, then.


AFAIK you can load Battery files in Kontakt. That should reduce the clutter somewhat.

 

I'm not sure if adding an extra track in your DAW to add a Kontakt snare over a Battery kit really constitutes a mess. It may just add some extra flexibility.

I have quite a few different software drums. I'll often use an acoustic Battery or Kontakt drum kit along with something like MicroTonic to add that electronic drum flavour to the mix. As I said, it just makes things more flexible. If I choose to I can add all sorts of effects or filters to one drum machine without affecting the other.

The only walls between things are the ones we build ourselves.

 

I have a gazillion simple custom drum kits for my urban drums in my Cubase/Nuendo template (no multi layers) organized in a bunch of 16 channel multi timbral instances of Kontakt. One for Boom kicks (808s), Kicks, Snares, Claps, Hats, Cymbals, Toms, Tempo-matched drum fills etc etc etc. I often miss the possibility of editing a Battery cell as opposed to selecting a note and going through the extensive parameters in Kontakt. It would be nice to be able to import simple Kontakt instruments into Battery. I'm about to make that transition for all my urban kits, and it will take me days, which is a PITA!!! Such a feature would be a godsend.

 

Hi,

I have a Komplete License.

I'm using an Alesis Strike Pro electronic Drum Kit with Kontakt and almost all the Drums Plugins from Native Instruments.

The Hi Hat from Alesis "Alesis HiHat Strike Kit Pro" sends the following MIDI notes and messages :

HiHat Bow :
G#-2

HiHat Edge :
G-2

Hi Hat Foot Pedal :
CC4

If I open or close the hi Hat pedal, it doesn't change the sounds in Kontakt.

So here is how I want the Drums Plugins from Native Instruments to behave :

When CC4 is at 0 :

I want that the MIDI note G#-2 (Hi Hat Bow) triggers :
F#3 = CLOSED TIGHT TIP L/R in Studio Drummer

I want that the MIDI note G-2 (Hi Hat Edge) triggers :
F#1 = CLOSED TIP L/R in Studio Drummer

When CC4 is at 127 :

I want that the MIDI note G#-2 (Hi Hat Bow) triggers :
G#4 = OPEN FULL in Studio Drummer

I want that the MIDI note G-2 (Hi Hat Edge) triggers :
G#4 = OPEN LOOSE in Studio Drummer

When CC4 is at 80 :

I want that the MIDI note G#-2 (Hi Hat Bow) triggers :
F#4 = OPEN 3/4 in Studio Drummer

I want that the MIDI note G-2 (Hi Hat Edge) triggers :
F#4 = OPEN 3/4 in Studio Drummer (The same as above)

When CC4 is at 50 :

I want that the MIDI note G#-2 (Hi Hat Bow) triggers :
F4 = OPEN 1/2 Studio Drummer

I want that the MIDI note G-2 (Hi Hat Edge) triggers :
F4 = OPEN 1/2 in Studio Drummer (The same as above)

When CC4 is at 20 :

I want that the MIDI note G#-2 (Hi Hat Bow) triggers :
E4 = OPEN 1/4 in Studio Drummer

I want that the MIDI note G-2 (Hi Hat Edge) triggers :
E4 = OPEN 1/4 in Studio Drummer (The same as above)

The only close answer that I found is in this old thread from 2012 where the user had to code a script themselves and enter it in the script editor...
Here is the link :
https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/abbey-road-drums-roland-v-drumkit.153830/

I don't know much in coding, so my questions are :
Is there a script that already exists for Alesis?
Can you tell me how to copy paste a script in the new Kontakt interface (since it's different from the 2012 version... )?
Can you help me to modify an existing script to tell Studio Drummer for instance to behave as I detailed above (Hi Hat)?
Thanks

 

I can't edit my former post...
I noticed an error in my post :
Here is the correction :

When CC4 is at 127 :

I want that the MIDI note G#-2 (Hi Hat Bow) triggers :
G#4 = OPEN FULL in Studio Drummer

I want that the MIDI note G-2 (Hi Hat Edge) triggers :
G4 = OPEN LOOSE in Studio Drummer