Solved Is there a new update coming this month - feb.2018?

Shhhhh already.... Do you want this update delayed by another month?

 

Lol! Of course

 

+1

 

So Mk3 get the spotlight , so what is with Maschine Studio - The flagship ? It’s very kind for some info what’s get planed with Studio . If it’s not possebile to make same updates for it ?i mean it was a 1000€ ultimative flagship . Now a Mk 3 for 600€ can more ? Hope you guys think on thousands Studio user ,too

 

Surprise windows midi out bug still not fixed.

 

would be amazing if a GRAPHIC EQ is included as well

 

Or a stock eq that does m/s . ..

 

And do not forget the use of after touch, otherwise it's nice if you can hear realtime if you shift a note in pianoroll mode.

 

Speaking of pipe-dreams, what would really be amazing is a a form of 'auto-mastering'.

What I mean is a a kind of EQ which works on types of sounds. So let's say you have a 'kick', this system would know the frequencies typically 'reserved' for kicks and apply a typical auto-eq. Ditto for all the other types of sounds you wanted to clean up so they sat in their own pockets.

Of course you would have manual control to tweak those frequency pockets, or by-pass this tool. The advance users could maybe add custom resonances and filters to sweeten that sound.. This tool would also analyse the overall mix and offer suggestions. So If too much was going on around particular frequencies it would suggest band changes.

And then there's another thought. You could even have 'auto references', where a form of a.i might analyse a track you supplied as a reference, and then created a template for the 'auto-master' to work towards.

Of course this would take resources only the bigger players will have, or sponcership of those ideas being developed in the lab. It would also need a vision statement for that future product we are all striving striving for.

I have a dream....

 

The theme of this update seems to better DAW integration, which is something we've been requesting for a while now. Let us hope this is taken forward with more imagination.

Better daw integration suddenly makes sense to NI, as seen in their move towards cross-platform multi-purpose expansions packs. This is the Maschine as hub, instead of stand-alone. This is NI finally recognising their users are coming from different places, and are more likely than most to have collections of stuff. Stuff which needs to be integrated with other stuff.

Let us hope the other planned upgrades will follow similar themes.

Your 'piano roll' idea could come under a theme of 'Industry standard Midi Tools', and could assume a role where patterns are imported into Maschine, because it had the best tools to re-imagine that information.

 

Yup it's crazy there is no aftertouch.

People still want to turn it into a DAW rather than fix the sequencer. Or even turn it into a mastering tool (just wow!). If you want an EQ you can buy one, this "form of auto mastering"..well it sounds like you need to buy a copy of Neutron and a DAW.

 

you might want to have a look at this here then -> https://www.soundtheory.com/home

 

I (handily) don't have a definition of a DAW so I'm not constrained by it. An awful lot of people would like simple editing and mixing features so that if they so desired they could finish a track in Maschine and to some that wouldn't entail too much. Being able to automate controls over a full track, getting the song mode...which is all part of having a working sequencer, fixing various bugs, aftertouch. Why would that be so wrong and indeed why would it be so wrong if they did develop further 'DAW like' features?

 

Just at least a complete solution for mixing in the box... Mastering is always another story anyway.
Just for me that use an old computer I can tell the software is really hugely optimised for stock plugins when basic third party plug-in that are not CPU intensive actually use more than they should. I compare à lot the CPU optimisation of third party plugins between maschine and Ableton and there is definitely a HUGe difference.
Which is why a nice stock eq with more filter type and m/s would be so great for me and my poor old computer

 

OK let's tackle this one by one..

"I (handily) don't have a definition of a DAW so I'm not constrained by it."

If I said to a pilot I'm not constrained by plane because I don't have a definition of a plane then that's kinda ridiculous A plane is a plane a DAW is a DAW.

"An awful lot of people would like simple editing and mixing features so that if they so desired they could finish a track in Maschine and to some that wouldn't entail too much."

These are DAW features you can buy a DAW.. sorted. Developing DAW features takes a lot of Dev time.

"Being able to automate controls over a full track, getting the song mode...which is all part of having a working sequencer, fixing various bugs, aftertouch."

These are sequencer features (Maschine is a sequencer/sampler and VST host, not a DAW). This definitely needs to happen.

"Why would it be so wrong if they did develop further 'DAW like' features?"

Firstly because they can't seem to get the sequencer/sampler and performance sorted (and bugs). This is what Maschine is and what people have bought. That's what NI should spend their development time on. If for some reason they get all this sorted (and hell freezes over) then there is nothing wrong with adding unrelated functionality and trying to bend Maschine into something it is not.

Second because there are already third party solutions you can buy (e.g. studio one). If you want a DAW solution buy one, Maschine never promised to be a DAW.

 

Why don't you mix in Ableton? You just bounce tracks to wav files, export into Ableton (or whatever DAW you are using) and mix.

 

The link is slow and barely loaded on my browser. I did however find out a few details.

"Gullfoss is an intelligent automatic equalizer that uses Soundtheory's unique computational auditory perception technology to identify and resolve problems in the frequency balance of your signal" -- and its for Mac users only. ;(

https://www.kvraudio.com/news/sound...t-equalizer-plugin-for-mac-at-namm-2018-40103

Now if NI were to buy them out, or get a license deal to use their technology, and then integrate it into Maschine - Now you'd be talking. ;-)

 

"Being able to automate controls over a full track, getting the song mode...which is all part of having a working sequencer, fixing various bugs, aftertouch."

These are sequencer features (Maschine is a sequencer/sampler and VST host, not a DAW). This definitely needs to happen."

I had a thought about it and to keep on on with that Maschine philosophy you described I can of though that you could imagine that when you are in Follow Mode, patter would switch automatically and you could then pass your automations on the whole track... Would be a great work flow

 

I have to do so yes, because I like to be able to use any plug in I want in a efficient manner and colour the sound as I want. As I said, my computer is old and freezing flattening is part of my daily workflow, as for resampling in Maschine that is for me not as optimised as Ableton. Curiously I can tell you that they could achieve in 10 version to make a program that is more efficient and less CPU intensive for me by 10% wich is mainly why I bought it after trying the beta version. Still cheaper than a new computer

 

I don't understand, so you are bouncing to wav tracks and mix in Ableton? Then you won't need any instances of Maschine or any plugins it uses afterwards. Using wav audio files is far more CPU efficient then running a sequencer using plugins. I would recommend doing this even of you were running a high powered PC.

Maschine can take up a lot of your processor and it's not very efficient. Get it out if the equation after you've finished sequencing and playing with it and don't run it when you are mixing.

It would be nice if NI made Maschine more CPU efficient but I really don't see why NI should spend devtime giving you DAW features just because your PC is apparently not powerful enough, esp when DAWs are already available. If you turned it into a big fat DAW for mixing could you imagine how processor intensive it would be? . Wouldn't you prefer to have a dedicated sequencer optimized for performance?

I'm running a 2010 Dell PC btw.