Jumping between Hotcues (Prev/Next Hotcue?)

Hi Forum,

my english is not best - but i will try describe my "problem" as accurately as possible.


I'm using TS Pro, newest Version (1.2.4 ?) with an Akai MPD24 for the midi control stuff.


I just startet to edit my tracks - i'm saving loops in the hotcue "slots" 1-8.

Now i will edit the "midi assigment table" so i can switch between the hotcues.

I want to use one pad of the mpd, to jump to the previous hotcue, and one pad to jump to the next/following hotcue.

I only found the option "select/set hotcue" but therefor, i have to assign every hotcue to a single pad on the mpd but in my opinion, thats a bit dissipativ.

The other option i found was "next/prev cue/loop", but there is a "problem" by jumping to a previous hotcue, while the deck is playing.

Because with this option, traktor only jumps to the previous loop-point, which is the loop-in for the active "hotloop".

Is there a possibilit, to assign a jump to the previous hotcue, while a deck is playing - without assigning every hotcue to a single pad?

Sorry for my english -

Greetings
Timo

 

Newest version is 1.2.6.

AS for your request.. I'm not sure it's possible. I myself only use direct access to hotcue number which is for me much more practical.

 

nobody has an idea how this problem can be solved?

 

Unfortunately (for you), this can't be considered a problem...as no one else is looking for hotcues to function this way...

...but let me see if I can understand what you're wanting:

Let's assume that you've set up 8 hotcues. assigning each one will take up 8 pads. you hope to accomplish control over hotcues using only 3 pads.

is this correct?

If so, then I don't think we can help you...but if you wish to use less pads to control your hotcues you can look into using a MODIFIER to program a sort of SHIFT button to give your pads access to more than one function.

If this is interesting to you, check into modifiers (run a search, you should be able to find tutorials and even a bible).

 

Hello Sinjintek,

thanks for the Tip - but i already knew the Modifiers- they won't fix my problem :| .

I want to use only 2 buttons for the Hotcue control.

One button for jumping through the previous hotcue and one button to jump to the next/following hotcue.

Its nearly simmilar to the existing option "next/prev cue/loop" with the difference that traktor shall jump through hotcues, not cue-/looppoints.

I can't understand why traktor - a nearly 600€ product (i own ts pro) - is not able to do this.

It's 90% copying existing code of existing functions and objects and 10% new code - expenditure of time: 1 day...

I should contact the german support - at least, they can understand my specifications.

Sorry for my english-

Greetings Timo

 

There's German section in this forum as well.

 

sorry, i assumed you'd need 3 pads: next, previous, engage

unless you wish to combine functions so that it will play each hotcue as you cycle through...doesn't seem like a good idea though.

i don't know if there is one in the German section, but i think it would be wise to post a request for this feature in the "feature suggestion" area.


p.s. i'm fairly certain that you CAN accomplish what you want with modifiers...but definitely not with only 2 buttons. sorry

 

You can easily do this with shift modifiers and you need two buttons that step up/down between M(X)=0 to 7

0 = Hotcue 1
7 = Hotcue 8

Button 1 cycles up
Button 2 cycles down

Setup modifier M(X) on Button 1 as follows
If M(X)=0, set value to 1
If M(X)=1, set value to 2
If M(X)=2, set value to 3
repeat this until you get to
If M(X)=6, set value to 7

Then for button 2
If M(X)=7, set value to 6
If M(X)=6, set value to 5
repeat this until you get to
If M(X)=1, set value to 0

You now have 2 buttons that change the value of M(X) from 0 to 7 by pressing button 1 to go up and button 2 to go down.

Now create 8 different Ins for each button (16 commands total) that change the hotcue from 1 to 8 depending on whether the value of M(X)=0 to 7.

So for each button you will need something like this
Go to Cue/Loop 1 when M(X) = 0
Go to Cue/Loop 2 when M(X) = 1
etc etc until you get to
Go to Cue/Loop 8 when M(X) = 7

You will need the exact same commands for each button.

I *think* this will work based on how Traktor's controller manager processes order of operations.

 

hi timo,

ich hatte das gleiche problem wie du mit der previous loop jump geschichte mit meiner akai.

Die Lösung, Modifier auf 2 Buttons legen finde ich programmiertechnisch und workflowtechnisch n bissl ungeschickt.
Letztendlich hab ich mich auf die Select/Set-Hotcues Lösung beschränkt, da man dann doch noch die möglichkeit hat, nicht nur auf den nächsten bzw. vorigen loop zu springen, sondern man kann halt auch mal in einen bestimmten loop springen.
Hab hierfür ne TSI-File hochgeladen. Kannst gern mal ausprobieren.

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119540&highlight=akai+mpd


greez

esdoubleyou

 

@dirkd the solution you're offering can't work (unless I'm mistaken) as Taktor can't tell the value of the modifier by itself (ie it's not because the track is at the 'level' of hotcue 7 that the modifier itself will be at value 6. You have to tell Traktor from which point it would have to calculate the jump (ie you have to press hotcue 7 so it can jump following your commands to hotcue 6....). Meaning that doesn't make sense as that supposes you already have direct access with buttons to your hotcues.

 

In my opinion this can easily be done, without modifiers. Just add Hotcue select to one button and change the setting in "up" (or "next" as I recall from memory. Not sitting behind comp). Other button same thing, but change setting to "down" (or "previous").

Should work, however you can only jump to next/previous hotcue and cannot define which hotcue.

 

and that sucks!

 

that`s what he wants, and it can be easily done.
just go to Controller Manager.
choose your midi controller (mpd).
add In ... - Cue/Loops - Next/Previous Cue/Loop -
then, just "learn" a button to that.
type of controller, Button. Interaction Mode is either Increase (inc) or decrease (dec).
then, decide if you want it for a special deck (assignment) or for the deck in focus.

i jump back and forth all the time from one cue to the next.
i load up a track, and it jumps to the "load"-cuepoint. (wich i always define and map to the grid-point, as this is the first cue anyway, and useless btw) -
then, i jump to the 2 - 3 - 4 - and see where i want the track to actually start.

 

It would also be GREAT if you could scroll thru them will the song is playing on that particular deck... You scroll thru while the deck stopped.

 

you can do both.

 

Was that for me and if so how?