Keeping Absynth Competitive

With instruments such as Omnisphere and others catching up to Absynth's standards, could the next version of Absynth have:

1.) These so called "psychoacoustic" sounds.
2.) A far greater library to pick from (Omnisphere has over 40gb)
3.) Greater choice of filters (Think of Tone 2's Firebird)
4.) FAR more effects
5.) Independent surround sound (i.e surround options are not controlled by effects used)

I know it's a big list, but still.

Cheers,
-DS

 

+1 for more filters
+1 for more effects, especially dynamic tools like a Multipressor and Limiter but also a parametric Equalizer would be cool

 

You can use the waveshapers as simple compressors...

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That's what I do but "simple compression" is not what I'm wanting for and the waveshapers always introduce a bit of distortion

 

I have to second the equalizer option. It would be great to have a built-in 6-band EQ like Ableton Live's. Something that could truly allow a user to shape sounds at intensely complex levels.

However I'd also like to see built in distortion amps (although I know Guitar Rig covers this, some amps specially designed for Absynth would be great). Also, instead of having the ability to select one effect, the ability to select as many built-in effects as availible (like in FM8) would help Absynth's capabilities immensely. I

 

Hello,

I mean, it would be nice to think about what mean to keep Absynth competitive? I would say to keep to different and unique ....

Going into the direction of those pseudo-über-synths like Omnisphere or Alchemy - I do not know if that would be the right direction. Or adding workstation stuff like compressors and eqs .... I have enough wannabe compressors and eqs ....
With filters - well, personally I mostly use the allpass and combs as the lowpasses sound a bit mediocre ...
The fx I think are great - because there are no standard workstation fx but really unique things which make the sound of this synth.

And of course they NEED to fix the browser - it is a PITA and - hell, I already prefer not to use Absynth so that I do not have got get upset about that .... I mean, how long is Absynth 4 now released and still the browser is not really in a state one would call usable ...

best

 

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What's unusable about the browser?

ew

 

It is toooooo sloooowwww .... scrolling, switching between Folder view and kategory view, etc.

that of FM8 is much faster - although is is also very slow ....

Oh - and yes, I think the fact that on import that the patches all the the creator of the patch that was loaded - give us a dialog and ask for that ...

best

 

I agree that I don't want Absynth to loose its uniqueness, but at the same time there are synths that share sound traits and genres, and a year without a major update of anysort (at least a version 4.3 or something) concerns me. I want Absynth to keep its uniqueness by growing and expanding. Basically take what it does and make it better at it. Maybe apply some of the granual sampling engines like in the Grain Synth ensemble in Reaktor, and have it so you map the sound out to a keyboard (easier control over pitch and the ability to actually start/stop the sound). Now that could make for some fun. Hmm...I'd also like to see a bitcrusher effect come to think of it. Sure I know I'm just being lazy here by not loading up one of the dozens of freeware ones on the track I've assigned Absynth to, but something tells me that if NI were to put a bitcrusher in Absynth, it would be nothing like any other one out there (commercial, free, hardware or software). Some more delicious reverbs too, and maybe support for Dolby's 7.1 surround? Alright, alright, I'm getting carried away, but Absynth's surround capabilities are second to none. Absynth definitely needs more material with it though, more things to go nuts with out of the box. More weird string samples, and some more genuinely creepy atmospheres. Native Instruments folks, you must give us either more weirdness in the next version of Absynth or....

A shrubbery!
(Immature, yes)

 

I would also like to see some good formant filters or maybe the ability to keep the formants while pitch shifting. How about using a waveform as filter curve?
Another suggestion would be having effect slots in the rows with the oscillator and filters, not just at the end of everything.
Talking about effects, a spectral delay would be great..... Ok, enough daydreaming

Cheers,
Deepbass

 

Absynth would be a great and ideal platform to bring back NI's Spektral Delay technology. It would allow for even greater depth of programming and sound design, and would put Absynth not just one or two, but several notches above the rest I think.

 

Also the looping section needs an overhaul - using samples loop crossfades are a must!

 

For me, the ability to import multi-sample instruments would be useful (like Alchemy claims it can...I haven't tried the demo yet). With that as the starting point, you could do a lot of really cool things.
In fact, if they could blend Absynth and Kontakt together, it would probably be all I would ever need...

 

Multi sampling is an excellent idea and would be nice although I don't know if NI will do it because it would start to conflict with reactor.

I think Absynth 5, or whatever comes next in this vein should also have a vastly improved insert FX ability. I like using Absynth 4 as an FX engine for other sounds when working in Ableton, but it sometimes feels like it should have more of an ability to really twist the sound inside out. The pipe, comb, ect. effects are great but there should be more ways to mangle stuff in the FX VST version of Absynth. It would also make the instrument more viable for live use in my opinion.

EDIT: Might I also suggest the addition of a sub-oscillator module? Could offers some nasty and wicked sounds and possibilities.

 

+1

 

native instruments should make assigning controllers in absynth as easy AND DIRECT as Kore 2(and Massive and Reaktor 5) for example.Battery 3 suffers from the same lame(and very annoying)method.
like KORE 2ress learn(or assign),select a knob on your controller,select a parameter in your plugin.press learn again to exit(maybe set controlranges etc).DEAD EASY AND FUN!THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE IN MY OPINION.
totally NOT like it is currently in absynth 4,battery 3,or traktor pro

and instead of new features,i would rather see these granular and sync granular osc modes bug-ridden.i can't recall how many times absynth crashed in ableton live 7.anyone have the same problem?
after fixing bugs they should add new features.

 

I've never had Absynth crash in Live, Sonar, Kore or any of my hosts...

ew

 

then try editing absynth's granular and sync granular(or switching to those modes ) parameters inside a host.it happenens with me a lot of times

 

Funny, I've never had issues either, at any stage of Absynth.

Doh.

 

(Bump)

After playing around with Absynth some more recently, I think I'd like a slightly more editable granular sampler function (a la the Reaktor Ensemble "Grain States" in Jazzyspoon's Songfreezer2), and some sort of arpeggiator is a must! Hmm, and maybe a little Convolution Reverb (for use with the synth side and the effects side. The next version of Absynth also really should have some sort of Vox tech, it'd take the synth's live capabilities to the next level!

EDIT: Also, I can't harp enough on how this beast could use some more oscillators and FX insert slots! Five oscillators minimum, and at least three routable Massive-style FX slots complete with a Bitcrusher, stereo, ping pong, and granular delays, some guitar-style amp effects, wah wah, rotor (single and dual), three-band and two-band EQ, flanger, phaser, the aforementioned convolution reverb, vox, a comb, ladder, lo-pass, high-pass (2,4,6,12, and 24 poles), bandpass (2,4, and 6 poles), widener, gater, compressor, ensemble, beat-repeat, and chorus/chorus-delay. Let's take what Absynth does so well now and make it a real beast! I'd also like to see the option of a wave editor allowing for crossfading.