Komplete 8 on XP?

windows 7 will always be better than xp...
the fact you can use more ram is already the 1 reason you should be using it...

honestly id love to see you squeeze down some tracks on xp with 3gig of ram whilst im using 7 on pro tools with 24... there is just no comparisson..

 

I just helped fix a computer where no XP drivers exist for some of the internal hardware. The owner has shoved various replacements into it, because he's for some unfathomable reason installed XP on it rather than the supplied Vista

If you don't upgrade anything, XP is fine. But if you want new hardware AND software, move on.

 

Professionals who earn their living on a DAW don't play the upgrade game like people whose livelihoods don't depend on their ability to reliably record, mix, and edit audio. More than a few outside of professional circles believe installing DAW software on their computer turns it into a DAW through no fault of their own. Software companies have thrived on successfully marketing this idea to "prosumers" since the around the early 90's. Marketing for MIDI sequencing software started the trend even earlier so these misconceptions about using computers and software for music then audio in general have been around for over a generation.

Risking one's reputation by constantly upgrading is a fool's game. Paying a mortgage, saving for retirement and children's college educations (and staying in good standing) isn't something one puts at risk by fixing things that aren't broken, and XP certainly isn't broken.

PS: Another advantage of XP is going to be less and less attention from hackers, viruses, worms, trojans, etc. However if you've never had your DAW connected to the internet you've never had to worry about such things.

 

Take it from an IT tech, XP is 10 years old. It can't last forever. You will have to upgrade sooner or later, just like the windows 95 users had to do when xp came out. There was a lot of yelling and screaming back then too... Music software manufacturers other than NI are already putting xp in the rear view mirror.

 

bbgunn, take it from an audio professional...

Back atcha.

 

Is NI software written for 32-bit Windows XP less reliable than NI software written for 64 bit windows 7?

It's not the OS that is usually at fault, it gets tested on thousands if not millions of different types of hardware and software environments. But how many computers test NI software before it gets released into the wild? Fewer and fewer now that Windows XP will be dropped; and Kore is dropped, so there's a lot less testing indeed.

I envy Mac people who can't change very much or order very many options for their computers. It's a simpler world.

 

I too am an audio professional. 30+ years.

 

As far as I know, it is still possible to buy a brand-new computer with Vista pre-installed; nevertheless, Komplete 8 does not claim to support Vista.

Does this imply that shortly after Windows 9 comes out, Native Instruments will drop support for Windows 8?

 

Only when windows 8 becomes TEN YEARS OLD. I just have to laugh. I've done all this same arguing about three times now. !st with Windows 3.1 , then with Windows 95. As I have said before, NI is not the only music software company putting XP in the rear view mirror. You won't have a choice but to upgrade sooner or later. It doesn't matter to me, I'm just offering advice. You can take it or leave it. OK I'm done with this subject, I'll leave you guys alone.

 

You evidently didn't take the trouble to read what I said before responding to it.

I said that Native Instruments has dropped support for Vista, even though it is possible to buy a brand-new computer TODAY with Vista preinstalled.

Moreover, there is hardware out there for which Vista drivers are available, but Windows 7 drivers are not yet available.

 

That depends. We can change the RAM and hard drives in most systems, and anything in a Mac Pro

But there is a divide between PPC users (a.k.a. neanderthals) and Intel users (the elite). The neanderthals are hanging on to their stone tools, which only support up to OS X 10.5. Among the elite there are still two subgroups, split between 32-bit and 64-bit users. With the previous OS upgrade, released in 2009, the neanderthals were completely dropped. With the newest OS, only two years later, the lesser elite were dropped. The oldest systems in that group are 5 years old.

So even among deities you will find OS upgrades are expected frequently

No Core 2 Duo? Sucks to be you. C2D or i3/5/7? Set for another 3+ years. Hopefully. No technical reason exists to drop C2D but not i3+ in a future OS upgrade, but you never know.

 

And woe to you if you install Lion on a machine used for music production without checking carefully for software updates first.

 

Yeah, my Lion partition is unused for anything but testing so far. The tests always fail

 

I apologize... I didn't see the vista part of your response.
If I had to make a guess I would say that vista is compatible, because windows 7 is nothing more than a better, fixed version of vista. For that matter, XP may work fine too...

Maybe this all becomes a moot point as people who buy this and load it on xp or vista report back on this forum and tell us it works ok. I hope it does work...

There may be limitations though, which is probably why NI didn't want to include xp or vista in their specs. I know 32 bit is going to be a limitation as far as usable RAM goes, and most XP installs are 32 bit. But for the sake of those that want to try to squeeze a few more years out of their old computers, I hope it works out for you guys...

 

IMHO Last month's versions work just fine under XP3 and NI aren't bringing enough new produkts and/or teknologies to justify purchasing this update. It's simply not enough to justify my investing in a W7 DAW to run it.

I hope it works out for yall.

 

Windows 7 is not bad at all so your investment will not be wasted.

But yeah, NI softwares still work perfectly in XP

 

My current audio interface (E-Mu 1616m) is not, and probably will not be, supported under Windows 7 except with beta drivers that do not offer full functionality. Moreover, the only way to upgrade from XP to 7 is to reinstall everything, including all applications.

So upgrading to Windows 7 will cost me the price of a new audio interface plus at least a week of my time.

Is this something you have verified yourself, or just what you believe?

 

So what's the word - WILL Komplete 8 actually install on an XP system or not? I can't seem to find a definitive answer in this thread. I'd really like to know before shelling out the cash only to find out I can't install the software...

 

Google pointed to a page in the Native Instruments websites that says that they think K8 will work with XP but haven't tested it and will not listen to trouble reports involving XP. When I tried to look at the actual page, I couldn't find it.

So the answer is that I don't know.

Personally, I'm not going to buy K8 until after I've upgraded to Windows 8. By that time K9 may be available anyway. I have enough to do that there's no need to rush.

 

It Works

Just installed on XP SP2/SP3 and on first appearance evrything works ok. I'm even running Cubase 6 32-bit, which like Komplete 8 says system requirements 64-bit Win7. Steinberg also dont supply support for C6 on 32-bit but I will be switching over soon. But for now Komplete 8 installs & runs ok on 32-bit XP. I'm yet to give it a real soak test but defo intalls ok.