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Komplete AAX Plug-ins

Dieses Thema im Forum "Computer Technology and Setup" wurde erstellt von danika, 23. Juni 2013.

  1. danika

    danika NI Product Owner

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    When I saw AAX plug-ins in the Komplete updates, I thought NI was getting ahead of the game for Pro Tools. However, when I installed Pro Tools 11 it rejected all of the NI AAX plug-ins as invalid. So basically I cannot use any Komplete instrument in PT 11. What does NI plan to do about this situation?
     
  2. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    Updates will come sooner or later. NI plugins are currently only 32-bit AAX, whereas PT11 requires and works only with 64-bit AAX. This is why you got PT10 along with PT11, so you can continue working on projects using RTAS and AAX 32-bit plugins.
     
  3. danika

    danika NI Product Owner

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    Not if you're running out of memory. Otherwise why bother with PT11?
     
  4. Peterjk

    Peterjk New Member

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    Is the egg and the chicken thing - right? What comes first - the new DAW version or the plugins to use in that new DAW version.

    Clearly developers can not see any point in releasing or even use time on AAX64 bit plugins for PT11, before PT11 is out, then again Avid won't sell any new upgrades to PT11 before there a larger number of AAX64 bit plugin available.

    I just installed PT11 and are starting to "fill it up" with the AAX64bit plugins that ARE available right now

    http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2013/6/23/aax-native-plug-ins-working-so-far-in-pro-tools-11.html"]

    - and it looks and feel very promising. I my mind there's absolute a reason to bother. PT10 HD on HDX cards was very shaky on buggy - ProTools 11 HD on the same Mac Pro, is far more stable and it gives me way more RAM to load virtual instruments into!

    So NI, can you please throw us a bone. Will you add AXX64 bit support in 3 weeks, 3 months, or end of the year?
     
  5. TCDetroit

    TCDetroit NI Product Owner

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    Some indication. for K9 and Maschine, workarounds are OK but...
     
  6. smoovemode

    smoovemode Forum Member

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    "They" got me (Developers). I'll probably end up buying another DAW and just let PT 11 sit.
     
  7. ScottGlasel

    ScottGlasel New Member

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    I'm staying put until all the bugs are worked out. PT10 works why mess it up for so little.
     
  8. smoovemode

    smoovemode Forum Member

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    PT 11 is better than PT 10 every was...right now. You just can't put anything in it...lol

    BTW - PT 10 (regular) is no better than any other DAW. It got it's reputation from its HD version and is no where near the same except for looks. All those qualities that separates Pro Tools from other DAWs is in HD. Otherwise Ableton, Cubase, Samplitude, logic 9 etc give the vanilla version of Pro Tools a run for it's money with little or not limitations. If there is something that vanilla PT 10/11 has over the other DAWs please let me know so I feel better about my purchase.
     
  9. ScottGlasel

    ScottGlasel New Member

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    The great thing about ProTool is that it's used everywhere. It's ubiquitous. In the greater Nashville area there are over 500 HD systems although most of those systems are running other DAWs with better sequencers of have other attributes that make them desirable, but everything gets transferred to PT at the end for mixing and archival.
     
  10. smoovemode

    smoovemode Forum Member

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    It's worth keeping, just so you can answer "yes" when someone asks you if you run Pro Tools.
     
  11. TCDetroit

    TCDetroit NI Product Owner

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    "It's worth keeping, just so you can answer "yes" when someone asks you if you run Pro Tools."

    no one ever asks me this. It's just a great intuitive editing application.

    We are not comparing your tools vs. our tools
    Just asking for a progress report.

    After all, NI was early into the AAX (32bit) platform which implied users would be set when Version 11 (AAX (64bit) came online.
     
  12. smoovemode

    smoovemode Forum Member

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    Now, this was a funny and strange reply.

    1. "no one ever asks me if I'm running pro tools" - No one asked you if someone asked you if you run pro tools.

    2. " We are not comparing your tools vs our tools" - Did I imply that?

    3. " Just Asking for a Progress report" - I'm no longer worried about it and stopped asking some time ago.

    4. Certain Vendors said they would be ready and when PT 11 was released, it turned out they weren't ready. It's all good, though. I moved on from PT 11.
     
  13. Bilbadino

    Bilbadino Forum Member

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    ExcuseMe but anybody know when will be released the KOMPLETE 9 AAX plugins 64 bits to be used in Pro Tools 11?

    IT'S INCREDIBLE THIS SITUATION !
     
  14. smoovemode

    smoovemode Forum Member

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    Get Cubase
     
  15. moxyl

    moxyl New Member

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    In Colorado we get rain .. and a life
     
  16. smoovemode

    smoovemode Forum Member

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    Cubase is life.
     
  17. jsepeta

    jsepeta NI Product Owner

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    So no word on 64-bit AAX yet? I specifically held out for a .1 release of PT11. Apparently it's up to 11.02 but my installer loaded 11.01.

    While I realize DAW software companies seek to control their destinies thru proprietary plugin formats, this isn't a particularly nice thing for customers to have to worry about, and it makes things more difficult for plugin developers. I wish Pro Tools offered a 32-bit bridge like Logic 9; but Logic Pro X dropped 32-bit support so we can probably expect to see that happen with other DAWs as well. Thank goodness hard drive storage is cheap and I can keep several versions of various DAWs on my Mac Pro.
     
  18. smoovemode

    smoovemode Forum Member

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    That's why I went with Cubase 7. I still got PT 11, but just don't use it.
     
  19. MediaBCD

    MediaBCD New Member

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    Avid prefered not to get into all the problems of having a 32 bit bridge into a 64 bit daw. The logic bridge was not stable and not even all plugins were actually supported by it. With the changes made to PT, the change of format was unavoidable if they wanted to move forward and not be tied up by a near 20 years old code that the RTAS was.

    What's the biggest mind blower is to see that other companies that also have big amounts of VI (example EW) actually are AAX 64 bit ready, distributed and working with already bug fixing the early issues, and some smaller companies like toontrack also have their VI's aax 64 bit ready, but a company like NI who knew for a good amount of time now (4 years almost?) is not even ready? Heck even waves.. has finally released their aax 64 bit plugins. But the biggest joke of them all is actually Air, which used to be part of Avid, who are still coming soon.
     
  20. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    Not really, they have just two products: PLAY engine and Spaces reverb. Everything else are just libraries that are loaded into PLAY. Compared to that, NI has a LOT more different products to include AAX2 support in. Be patient.