Komplete Kontrol velocity curves

Hi,

When I received my Komplete Kontrol S61 I tried it out with the Giant kontakt library and was dismayed by the velocity sensitivity. Even with the hardest playing I could not reach the highest velocity sound from the library. I eventually found that you can change velocity sensitivity through the editor but I still think it very strange that it didn't have a more natural velocity curve straight out of the box. Is this a common trait for midi keyboards or is it possible that my keyboard is actually faulty in some way? Is there anyone who hasn't a problem with the default linear curve setting?

Assuming its not faulty, what are peoples preferred settings for the velocity curve. I've found that soft 3, the highest sensitivity before 'fixed to max' is the only setting that gives me a realistic piano response with a piano library.

Tom

 

Same here Tom. I got a S61 on Saturday and had to hit the keyboard with a (large) hammer to get full velocity. Im now set at "Soft 1" setting which is better.

Other readers: Settings are in: Komplete Kontrol -> Edit -> Preferences -> Hardware

ta,

Paul

 

Thank you! I have found the default to be pretty unusable!

 

im glad its not me I thought I was going crazy the velocitys do seem off on mine too.

 

Hi guys, I'm having similar problem with my new M32. I checked Komplete Kontrol, now in version 2.3.0 - but there is no Hardware in Preferences, only Audio, MIDI, General, Library and Plug-ins - and I don't see how to set velocity curves. I'd need something much softer too.
Thanks for any help.
Richard

 

Hi Richard, Sorry to bring this news but velocity curves (VC) are not available for M32 and A-series keyboards. It's been reported and requested by many users (I know from a NI rep) but they just refuse to implement it. I suppose to trigger people to buy a S-series. But those keyboards are for a totally different target group of users (with their screens and extra knobs). You would expect that basic functionality like VC would be a standard on keyboards from a quality company like NI, but that image has a dent for me now.
I would have never bought a NI keyboard if I'd have known this feature was missing. Now I have to create a workaround with a midi velocity manipulating plugin in Ableton Live. It's madening.

 

Hi all, assuming there's no improvement on this subject matter on NI's side, is there a 3rd-party solution to this problem, apart from DAWs?

I don't use my A61 for recording purposes, I just want to play (using Komplete Kontrol or just Kontakt/Player, nothing else). I found this midiCurve.dll (I assume this is a VST plugin??) and being super under-knowledged about these matters, I couldn't find out if I could use this with Komplete Kontrol. I think I'm placing it in EVERY possible folder, but it just won't appear on Plugin menus.

Or, is that really a working solution or what is?

Is there a good samaritan out there who'll talk a bro through this in the most "beginner" way possible?

 

Hi, iogurte. You can use midiCurve if your DAW supports 32-bit plugin, I tried it, it works and did what I wanted, but I don't use it anymore, because I don't want to use 32b plugins. Also, I often fix the midi values after the fact, so it's not a big deal.
There is also VeloScaler, but I didn't like its bands, perhaps it's fine for you.
If you just want to play I hope A-keyboard is more consistent and sensitive than M-keyboard, which is probably OK for drumming, but not for piano parts (differences between white and black keys are also extreme). I was angry about it, I didn't want to fix this in my FX chain, but eventually, I stopped bothering - it's a good keyboard for a price and I complemented it with Arturias MicroLab that has much more sensitivity. Now these are micro keyboards, so I don't know what I'd do having an A61 - it's hardly practical to buy another keyboard to that one, I guess.

 

Hey, thanks for your reply, but yeah, no, I don't want to use any DAWs, only Kontakt Player, Komplete Kontrol or standalones. My PC simply can't handle any one I've tried - it keeps crashing or freezing.

Is there an alternative velocity control plugin I can use on Kontakt or Komplete Kontrol?

I'm beginning to think it was a horrible mistake, buying an A61.