kontakt 5 download link

oh really. Damn. So do I need to buy K5 for the full price of K5 now that I have K6 ?

 

You need a license for K5 if you want to run K5. You cannot buy it from NI at full price anymore, so maybe try looking out for second-hand licenses (on KvR buy and sell subforum, on eBay...)

 

so Native does not sell Kontakt 5 anymore. Is that correct understood ? and one more question. If I find Kontakt 5.4 or somthing on ebay can I upgrade that one to 5.6.6 for free then ?

 

NI's license policy in this regard is just wrong in my opinion. As a K5 owner, I once asked the NI support if I could get (or buy) a licence to run K3 on an older Mac PPC - but they said that's not possible. Why? What's their problem with that?

 

I totally agree Soundtrax. Paying a lot of money to use kontakt 6 but not being able to use Kontakt 5 seems really weird.

 

Correct. NI always sells only the latest version of their products.

Yes.

There's no right or wrong here, it's company's decision that each major version of the product gets its own license number, and that there is no retrograde licensing possible. Many other companies work in exactly the same way.

 

Thanks for the answers Evildragon.

Just a shame - I should have bought kontakt 5 from the beginning but I guess we live and we learn

 

We all know that audio computers are complex systems and updating everything to the latest version just doesn't work in many cases - that's why I appreciate any company that gives the user the option to downgrade their software. So yes, it's a company decision, but it is wrong.

 

I guess from a particular user's standpoint it could be considered "wrong". But you get the software as-is, it's in the EULA.

 

I totally agree with this opinion. It is wrong. If NI company work only for themselves and produce product for them and we just want some, then okay. But NI develops a product for us and some of us have problems with that. So any answer from this evil moderator makes us evil.

 

You shouldn't blame EvilDragon for this, that's just not fair.
I guess it is actually quite difficult if not impossible for NI to give away new serial numbers of old discontinued products. But they really should find a solution. Seems that there are quite some users with only a K6 license and they are not able to to use the old K5 import functions (And buying a used K5 license is quite impossible).

 

Thank you. At least one person understand this situation correctly.
I don't blame. I just like that anything asked is going to reduce to "not impossible". I am programmer and there should be only one row in code:
if (current user licence is for K6) then allow using K5.
Not more! Any difficulty in development is made by lazy programmers.
Take a look on Cubase. Was it so difficult to implement this feature in a world's best DAW? I don't believe. They do that since the very beginning and it is worth it to do that. Now if newest Cubase don't satisfy or is too hard for current resources, we can use older version that nicely fits in setup. In NI case it's not possible and to have all running smoothly, we should buy new resources. For example, K 6.1 runs quite good, but K 6.2 have new features and of course it needs more CPU power. Yes, anybody can ignore updates and stay on first version of K6. See? In a one version there already is this comparison - if (the main number of version is the same as for licence) then allow using installed version. So, where is problem to add another row - if (user have licenced Kontakt) allow use any older version. It's that simple!

 

It's not about "lazy programmers" it's about how NI as a company decides to license their products. It is not at all uncommon to find the same situation elsewhere in IT world where separate major versions require separate licenses and having just the latest one does NOT enable you to use the older major versions.

K6.2 has new features, yes, but that doesn't mean that it uses more CPU by default. It depends on those new features being used at all in the first place. Libraries that don't employ those new features have exactly the same performance as they had in previous versions. Just FYI. Also, not all new features add to CPU load. For instance, user zones implementation has nothing to do with CPU load, it is regarding how things can be dynamically mapped in the instrument through user interaction. It's not a new effect that requires CPU for calculating its DSP.


Also I find it laughable that you think there's only one line of code supposed to enable this license backporting that you want. You are not considering how NI's databases are structured, the product pipelines, the differences between authorization schemes used throughout the last 24 years that NI has existed, that there were two or three different authorization tools used each with their own idiosyncrasies, that there are two different serial number schemes in play (any older product doesn't recognize the NA serials with letters) ... No, it's not just one line of code. Don't expect it to ever happen.

 

I really understand you, but you really didn't understood me. There is nothing about databases that every installation creates for use with that version. You still think I'm stupid? Licence check is at licence controller level and there can be one single row that allows or disable use of product if there is newer licence. Relevant data is used by software when it starts, not at licence check stage. The same situation we have on Cubase - we buy upgrade, we get new serial number, we apply it in licence controller, and we can use any previous version, no matter it's major or minor.

Does not Kontakt asks Native Access for a simple answer - does this computer have a licence? Do you telling that Kontakt controls licence by self? Then for what we have Native Access and earlier Control Center?

 

Evil, I made a ticket but it still quiet. I need some information - what's important to know if I create sample library in K6 and it would be nice that users can use it with free K6 player? There should be some restrictions that prevents need of full K6?

 

I have never said or implied that, let's stop with harsh words please.

If you want to make a Kontakt Player compatible library, you need to sign a contract with NI and go through the Kontakt Player encoding procedure etc. More info here:

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/specials/komplete/this-is-nks/pricing/

 

Thank you for the link!

 

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