Kore discontinuation

Would this be a never-ending supply of chocolate buttons?

 

Yes. And they would have to be Galaxy Buttons and not those awful things that Cadbury's make. And they have to be fully automatable. And light up according to signal strength.

 

Well, not everyone will be happy of course. There is no way to fix the broken projects of long-time users, unless NI reverses course completely from what they have stated.

BUT, the plan I wrote would at least help compensate for NI's failure. Yes, there will be some who have bought each and every soundpack. But 100% dissatisfied customers is way worse than 3-4%.

 

you'd think...

 

Grace periods are commonplace in the software industry, regardless of genre.

Spectrasonics offers free upgrades from some of their software to the most current version. I think even Native Instruments had some sort of grace period last year with Komplete 7.

On a slightly related note, I just upgraded my Trilogy to Trillian and I bought both Stylus RMX and Omnisphere. All of their software has MIDI Learn, and they have templates for BCF-2000 and BCR-2000, both of which I have. Might be very handy to use my BCF to control Stylus's mixer; kind of like a sub-mixer for my drum parts.

Spent nearly a thousand dollars just today alone. Needless to say, I'll be eating cheese and crackers for the next few weeks. But I have always wanted them and now with the Kore discontinuation, I've been researching my options. I figure this is as good a time as any for me to gain some independence.

 

That is more than correct, thought about that move days ago but just too disgusted with NI to even bother to post it...still now thier thinking ahead but the third major sucker punch thier going to be giving out.

Unlimited supply...NI?
Goodbye!

 

We do know there will be Komplete 8 from the Kore Discontinuation Sticky at the top of this forum:

"Future versions of the Komplete bundle and of individual NI instruments might no longer be fully compatible with Kore, and will not include special preset versions for its sound browser."

Future versions of the Komplete bundle means Komplete 8. Which also means I have no interest in it. As I plan to stick with Kore 2 64bit once it comes out and not purchase future NI products.

 

Well, Kore was said to have a future too. The K8 upgrade needs to be impressive though, if they want us to buy it
And all these koresounds we're going to have to make when we refuse to crossgrade to Maschine...

 

I think this is potentially a serious problem for NI and I wonder if they have really thought this through. Kore was very much an incentive for people to buy into Komplete and visa versa and to keep updating their NI products - I think I bought Komplete first but I bought Kore as soon as it came out as it just made sense. People who had either Kore or Komplete tended to want to keep buying into NI products as they just worked so well together and to have one without the others was literally inkomplete Now we actually seem to have a complete reversal with Kore owners wanting to stick with Kore having no incentive to update to future versions of Komplete, if anything there is a disincentive operating if people want to keep running Kore long term. While people may still choose to do so if a product update is attractive enough there will always be that need to balance it against what it means for Kore.

On the other hand Maschine is no incentive to buy other NI products in itself - while people who like Maschine may well think they would like to try other NI products (and again visa versa) there is nothing of the sort of synergy offered by Kore and Komplete. The problem here is that this leaves Maschine on its own - people who buy into it do not have the same level of commitment to NI's product range that Kore users had, and if tomorrow some new beat box came out that became more popular than Maschine NI may regret putting all their eggs in one basket. I guess that is why there is such a drive to get some sort of integration going but I wonder really if this is such a great business strategy after all?

 

Nice 1 ix. I'm sure Frank would have appriciated the surrealism of this situation.

I know all to well that computer/software capitalism is a sausage factory of dreams to feed our creative desire. However somehow I feel sullied by NI during this Kore affair.
I'm still deep with Reaktor & Kontakt & I do recall doing surveys, but treat me as an equal NI & ask how you can help us before pulling the rug.

We all needed more time to adjust & come to terms with this decision. Akai didn't need to tell me my S3000's days were numbered. I could see software & computers ready to kill it. With Kontakt I can adjust but Reaktor is a unique beast with a great user community. I felt that was happening too with
Kore ?
The fact I'm having theses lack of confidence thoughts across the NI range is the way the annoument has been handled.
Talk to us the Kore users top brass. I'm sure it would count for a lot...

Tom & K any movement on deals or sweeteners please keep us ALL informed..

nite nite
NS10

 

Yeah I'm in agreement. The thing is NI are looking at it like this from what I can tell, Maschine will get the major (not brutally time consuming) tasks of Kore, it will host plug ins and possibly save hardware set ups for each preset you make. It doesn't sound like NI are willing/capable of keeping up the tagging sytem for all their plug in presets, so that's out. The integration and being able to save banks of plug ins in your DAW in a single instance will in the future be handled by Maschine.
What I do not get and what I think of as a horrible business decision is that it would have been possible IMO for NI to meld the two together without forcing a huge Pad controller on people who don't want or need one. They could have stated flatly that they were going to discontinue patch tagging in Kore and that Kore software was going to continue in Maschine, letting users know that due to lack of resources to continue to develop both they would have to upgrade to the Maschine/Kore software, and lose the tagging in the future. Kore 3 could have come out as a supplemental add on to Maschine or a stand alone using Maschine hardware, preset morphing with an XY pad and 16 knobs. Using the same software the users would choose to either buy Maschine or Kore or both, and with 16 500step automation endless encoders, almost every synth would feel like hardware.
Sad fact is though that they probably concluded that most people browse presets and don't need that much hands on control, the thinking that has kept any smooth elegant hardware controller for software from becoming a reality.

 

Shoot, I'll admit that I browse patches, but I do it IN KORE! Seriously, I've only begun to scratch the surface of what can be done with it, and now they're pulling the plug? KORE really came into its own as of v2, IMHO.

They could also do what they did with KORE, that is, offer us a software-only upgrade to Maschine with *some* KORE features, with the promise of, say, 80+% of the features to be implemented by some date in the future.

It will be interesting to see what they do with Maschine, it looks like it could easily support the features of KORE, and if it does...

 

Personally, I can't wait for Komplete 8.

That's why I just bought Trillian, Stylus RMX, and Omnisphere. I'm seriously contemplating their iPad controller app too and I'm thinking of building my own version of the OMG synth.

Maybe I'll tear apart my Kore and replace the red LEDs with Blue ones.

I see Sweetwater is still selling Kore 2. Better hurry up, I heard a rumour that it might get discontinued!

 

I saw that someone wrote that they expect a new hardware unit for Maschine 2.0. Is that speculation or based on an announcement?

 

Unfortunately, everything is speculation at the moment!

 

Here's a pic of Maschine 2 due out soon...

 

Now you're just being silly....

 

Wow! Maschine 2 looks awesome! Smaller, slicker, more sophisticated! I want one!

 

LOL!

 

I just watched the original Kore promo trailer again tonight. Mixed feelings, for sure.

Cheers,

-ix

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