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Discussion in 'REAKTOR' started by lukash, Sep 18, 2003.

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  1. lukash

    lukash Forum Member

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    what do you guys think, should there be one, and would PC users ditch windows? I'm just curious.
     
  2. mallahat

    mallahat New Member

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    I would ditch windows for a linux version of Reaktor. Reaktor (and Reason 2.5) is the only reason I'm staying with XP.

    Linux is the most stable system out there. what a great platform for music!
     
  3. aroedl

    aroedl Guest

    Most (if not all) NI applications can be installed on Linux as long as you have Wine installed. Wine (http://www.winehq.com/) is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API and is included in the major Linux distributions, but I would suggest to download the latest version from their website.

    Just mount your favourite NI software CD and start the Windows installer. Demo versions should work fine as well.

    A small subset of supported audio tools can be found in the Wine application database, which is sadly far from being complete:
    http://appdb.winehq.com/appbrowse.php?catId=13

    I'm pretty happy with Vokator, Traktor and Reaktor running perfect on my Linux box.

    Please understand that Native Instruments can not offer support for these setups.
     
  4. sleen

    sleen NI Product Owner

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    compromise

    Any idea on what kind of performance compromise you get running reaktor under Wine? For example, if you compare ensembles...

    Also, do you know if this can connect to Jack apps?
     
  5. aroedl

    aroedl Guest

    Re: compromise

    As far as I know, there are virtually no differences, but you might expect higher latencies.

    Yes: No.


    Andi
     
  6. shhhhhucks

    shhhhhucks New Member

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    Installed wine OK on mandrake 9.1 but having trouble running reaktor as after seeming to install OK it's asking for the CD but not finding it :~(

    The free version of traktor runs great though :~)

    Any ideas would be really appreciated as It'd be SO nice to run reaktor under linux!
    cheers
    kev
     
  7. lukash

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    this is quite amazing, I never really thought of running reaktor with wine. I mean, I'm quite a mac enthusiast, but then I wouldn't buy a desktop mac, even though the G5 is tempting, I just don't have the money. But a nice cheap PC with a cool "low latency kerneled" linux sounds fine to me. I mean, at the moment I'm on a 600MHz iBook, so it would still be a nice jump forwards performance wise to have a nice built PC which could be done fairly cheap as well. And Windows is the only thing I don't like about PCs, and most really cool audio apps are out for linux as well, like PD. Jeez, If only... Anybody knows of a linux version of SuperCollider? This thing rocks for algorithmic sequencing.
     
  8. John Nowak

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    SC is out for OS X and Linux, and both versions are kept up to date. The only difference is there's no binary dist for Linix.. you gotta compile it yourself (easy).

    I'd consider a *nix box.. proally run a BSD deal.. if Reaktor was out for those systems. Only consider though... apple works very hard to get a lot of great audio technologies into X, which you don't get anywhere else. And I also dislike Windows.

    The new G5 boxes do cost more though, but they are dead silent (seriously), and the G5 is pretty zippy, and will be up to 3.0ghz in around 8 months. Plus if you're like me, and you can actually think of reasons why you'd want 8GB of RAM, its good. :) The G5 also kicks ass on scientific sorts of processes where a P4 can't even touch it. The P4 is still faster for Reaktor though I think, although not by much.

    I'll stay with the mac for now, especially if I get a laptop. Built-in 2ms latency rocks.
     
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    magneton NI Product Owner

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  10. aroedl

    aroedl Guest

    Its quite easy to solve your problem: You can either run "winecfg", a tool to configure wine and its drives or simply edit the config file itself.

    The config file is a text file that lies in ~/.wine/config (in a directory called ".wine" in your home directory).

    Just make sure that the "Path" in the section "[Drive D]" is correct. It must point to the mount point of your cd drive. That depends on your linux distribution.


    Andi
     
  11. aroedl

    aroedl Guest

    The upcoming linux kernel version 2.6 will have the ALSA sound drivers included, providing high quality drivers for most of the (semi-)professional audio boards and a lot of changes regarding ultra low latencies in multimedia applications.

    Check this out: Linux 2.6

    Stay tuned!


    Andi
     
  12. shhhhhucks

    shhhhhucks New Member

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    The cdrom path is OK - I can run reaktor set up from
    wine D:\\Reaktor\ 4\ Setup.exe
    When I run reaktor after installation i get an error saying can't run wibukey.vxd. After closing that box i get asked for the reaktor CD or reaktor 3 dongle (I'm installing reaktor 4) but it can't see the cd (which is mounted correctly as /mnt/cdrom) Did you get the vxd error when you first installed under wine?

    cheers
    kev
     
  13. John Nowak

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    On second though, maybe I'll stick with my mac. ;-)
     
  14. shhhhhucks

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    actually now you mention it i think i will too.....

    Just can't help messing around with stuff though ;~)
     
  15. aroedl

    aroedl Guest

    Sorry, Reaktor4 is the only NI product that doesn't work out of the box under linux/wine. There might be a workaround for the problem, but I haven't investigated it so far.

    Andi
     
  16. John Nowak

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    So screw around in the terminal. 'Tis BSD after all. ;-)
     
  17. aeser

    aeser NI Product Owner

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    as i type from one of my netbsd boxes i'd be very psyched if there were some audio apps for bsd. but it won't happen since like %.00001 of the computer using population are using a bsd os and the companies arn't stupid and do want to actually sell their product.
     
  18. aroedl

    aroedl Guest

    Hello!

    As far as I know, MacOSX is actually BSD! Apart from this fact, you can easily multiply your estimated percentage by a factor of 100.000 or even 1.000.000.

    You know, that Wine also runs on BSD?


    Andi
     
  19. John Nowak

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    Yes, OSX is BSD and has every single one of its advantages. It's wonderful. :)
     
  20. lukash

    lukash Forum Member

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    just a quick question on this matter. Isnt OS X BSD 4.4 based, but has started its own fork, Darwin, and do Darwin and OpenDarwin include CoreAudio and CoreMIDI? Oh, and doesn't Os X actually have a different kernel than BSD, something Mach like?
     
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