Live input to Vectory

Hi all, I'm new here, so bear with me!

I'm also very new to reaktor programming. What i'm trying to do is to stream audio into Vectory from my sequencer host instead of using the sample loader built into it. What i'm trying to do is to use Chris Lists Beatlookup sample buffer as the input for vectory's sequencer. I've managed to route the audio through vectory so as its constant effects work, but i cant seem to work out how to get vectory to talk back to beatlookup in the same way it would with the sample loader.

Is there anyone out there willing to help out a n00b?

thanks all! :S

 

vectory chops up via the internal sampler. you'll need to search for a live re-order sequencer in the UL, however there is also a live effect that I have uploaded into the Builders forum that will handle the stretch Sound effect for you. Search for RichGlitch in the builder's forum.

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum_us/showthread.php?t=82990

also you can find the vectory effect extracted in the UL

 

i didn't find richglitch, but i found your micro rich instrument! it's very nice! I like it, but it's not quite the tool i'm looking for. what i'm trying to do is to replace Vectory's internal sampler with a live feed of audio, so what i'm trying to do is to get vectory to treat the beatlookup buffer the same way it would the sample loader... and it doesn't exactly seem easy!

 

you can search for live sampling in the UL.
There also a live sampler build from Glex anywehre here.

....or build your own solution with Audiotables or Core.

 

what i'm saying is, you're not going to find an all in one instrument like vectory... (re-routing a sampling instrument into a live instrument, from what i've seen through years in this program; its not just a "connect the ports" process) you're going to have to combine things from a series of instruments. there's a live re-order in the UL (i think by baumgartner) vectory also uses a stretch feature, which my upload does (micro rich), as well as reverse (but BeatLookup uses a reverse as well) and you'll need the extracted effects from vectory, also in the UL.

 

so what you're saying is that potentially, what i'm trying to do is possible but i'll have to combine extracted effects from various instruments as i won't just be able to wire in a live audio sampler to just replace Vectory's sampler?

I will essentially have to build from scratch using building blocks from other ensembles?

 

you're far from scratch. i'd say this is a 10 minute job. you'll just be connecting, daisy chain style a combination of 4 instruments

 

and i'd still be able to retain vectory's re-organising capabilities?

 

maybe the nearest thing to a Live Sampling Vectory is Toxonic Glitch2.

sowari

 

you need the "re-order" instrument

 

ok, good. this seems like a good way for me to get to know Reaktor in detail. Taking your advice, i'm going to learn how Vectory works inside out. This way, i guess i'll be able to figure out where to route events from and to. I'm primarily interested in Vectory's re-ordering capabilities, so my first task will be to find a live sampler that can accept loop-start-point info in the same manner that Vectory dishes it out.

would this be the re-order instrument you mentioned?

thanks for the pointers btw!

 

right.. i've made progess, what i've settled for is to set up a system whereas the user records a 2 bar loop into a sampler, and then when it's played back, vectory control's the startpoint. this seems to work to a certain extent, but when vectory sends a drastic jump in the start position, reaktor crashes!
there must be a reason for this.. here is an image of where i'm routing my start signal from. it's coming out of the sequencer module..




and here is where it's going to...

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w251/benjabones/sampler2.jpg?t=1240951972

i've routed the audio output correctly back through vectory the same way the old sample loader was routed.

any ideas?

 

no. see the pictures you've shown are edits that you are making in the vectory instrument itself (macros and whatnot). what sowari and i are suggesting is that you work at the ensemble level. you don't need to change any macros at all. you just add instruments.

all you need: is your live audio, like coming out of your sequencer... or loops or whatever... connect that (meaning the far left microphone audio in box in reaktor) to the "in ports" of the "re-order" (instrument in the User Library) then connect my stretch effect the same way (someone elses; WHO CARES ABOUT MINE!) from the outs of re-order (right side) to stretch effect (left side), then connect that stretch effect's "out" (right side) to the "in" (left side) of the extracted vectory effects (found in the UL), then you have everything vectory has.

this is is called "daisy chaining" effects

(the modifications that you are suggesting to vectory itself are a HUGE job, bc of the differences algorithmically or DSP wise, and you will spend months learning and building it in reaktor, which can create cool results and you should do if you're interested. But if you want what you're looking for immediately this suggestion will work right now.)

 

to: Rich Grin

Thanks for the upper link. didn`t see before.........

nice microrich.ism

 

that is legendary help! soon as i have time, i'll give it all a try! thanks so much for your advice!

if i'm successfull, i'll let you's know!

 

having difficulty finding those extracted vectory effects, any ideas?

 

I couldn't find them either. However I did find "voogle" which works something like Vectory and the BeatLookUp together. Then there is the "Morphine" which is somewhat like the Vectory Effects.

I did however manage to extract the Vectory Morph FX. I will upload them ASAP.

I've been using them after the LoopRippa. But you might think about using them after the Voogle or BeatLookUp or both.
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OK I uploaded what I extracted. It's under effects. It's called "Vectory MORPH FX"

I did add sliders for the Morphing, and Morph Bank A and Morph Bank B that you can use a midi controller on.

Hope that helps.

 

voogle is a live re-order yes.

the original vectory morph fx can be found as "morphine" in the UL sorry! color differences, looks cooler yeah? but i've downloaded yours too Juan. thanks.

here's that other re-order i was talking about http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=userlibrary&type=0&ulbr=1&plview=detail&patchid=5819

 

It's seems to me the "morphine" is close but not quite the same in sounds.

 

yeah... ... ... ... . . . . . . .. . ... . . . .. . still fricken shweeeeet