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Locked tempo chaos

Discussion in 'TRAKTOR PRO / TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO' started by Lee Jones, Jan 8, 2017.

  1. Lee Jones

    Lee Jones NI Product Owner

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    Hi Guys
    This issue has baffled me.
    Last night when i started my radio show i loaded a 120 bpm track which made the tempo 60 bpm. and somehow locked the tempo to this bpm. I went to the master tempo section and could not change it. Remember i was just about to start my show and thus couldn't. My music is all around the 120-125 region. Somehow a friend there used Tap to get it into the right kind of tempo.
    So my terror ended but i was then locked to 123.45 and could not make it change.
    I desire it to work in sync but i want to be free to move the tempo sliders on my S4 to increase the general speed as i wish. I really dont want it locked to anything other than the current track playing, which i want to be free to alter the tempo as i see fit. And alongside what happened to the track that i know is 120 that changed the tempo to 60.???
    I can't have this happening ever. I play gigs in clubs regularly and am close to ditching the S4 and using the CDJ's that are usually there.

    I am a little desperate because i have no clue how to turn off the master, the button does not respond.
    I hope this makes sense. I can't explain it any better.

    Thanks
    Lee
     
  2. -Yul-

    -Yul- NI Product Owner

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    I think you should go back to the manual of your unit/traktor to get how it works really. No offence intended.
    Your track's bpm was just halved, it's just simple as that. In all the best cases, you should analyse your tracks before, make sure the beatgrid/bpm is correct and lock the analysis. Why that did happen, I don't know it happens sometimes. You just can't really rely 100% on the grid analysis being always accurate. And that's not a Traktor thing especially.

    What you tried to do was to change the master tempo. The master tempo isn't your track's bpm. So depending on how you set things up, you just needed either to write the correct BPM for the track being the master (within the browser's line, under the bpm on the bottom half of the deck, directly in the track's header), set the master as the master clock and change it here, or there is a button on the grid's tab where you have a "x2" button in case your track has been halved. Or maybe your analysis was locked, but it's no surprise you can't change it if you don't unlock it. Many solutions here depending on what exactly happened. But all comes back to you as a user.

    On the side of Master clock/any track being the master/or just sync, that's the base engine of Traktor you just didn't get the time to be more familiar with and that's basic knowledge/understanding to have. Because it works fine. Traktor master clock/sync engine is tight.

    Now, may be that wasn't what you wanted to hear/read and I'm stressing it again, there's really no offence intended.
    And just to be clear, there are bugs known and unknown and things that can go wrong all the time, but not here on what you described. If I understood correctly of course.
    Good thing is you don't have to worry anymore (on that at least ^^) and there's no need to be desperate. Have fun.
     
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  3. Lee Jones

    Lee Jones NI Product Owner

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    no offence taken, ive ended up chucked in getting what info i can as confusions have arisen. The thing is i learn best by being shown and most people use sticks and CDJ's in the world i live and have no real mentor with it.
    I'll read what you have said again.
    Cheers
    Lee
     
  4. Lee Jones

    Lee Jones NI Product Owner

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    If you could tell me where please
    there is a button on the grid's tab where you have a "x2" button in case your track has been halved.
     
  5. Lee Jones

    Lee Jones NI Product Owner

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    After testing....
    So very clearly for the use I'm wanting i should have had the Auto button in Tempo activated. Im just not sure at all how it had set itself to Master.. I definitely didn't do it and for a year i guess its been exactly how i was wanting it. Can some other keystone or whatever, invoke Master?
     
  6. ErikMinekus

    ErikMinekus NI Product Owner

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    Using Ableton Link will force it to use Master Tempo, and you have to manually turn Auto back on after using Ableton Link, which is rather annoying.

    The x2 button is on the Advanced deck layout, choose Grid on the bottom left, then /2 or x2 on the bottom right. Then click the lock icon.
     
  7. -Yul-

    -Yul- NI Product Owner

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    When
    It wasn't clear, my bad. Check you have your deck(s) in advanced mode (may be they are already, it's the "form" where most settings can be modified for the deck. If you are already in advanced mode, you should see Move/Cue/Grid just under the deck's play button. If not, go file/preferences/decks layout (you can slo quickly access the preferences by clicking the cog button on the rigth upper hand side.
    Within decks layout, you have, on the right, a section called decks layout (too) where you can set your decks with a drop down menu in micro/small/essential/advanced.
    Now if you're in 'advanced mode', just click grid under your play button, that's what you use usually to modify the beatgrid, bpm and the like. You could juts type in the right bpm, in your case as you know the track has been halved, you can click the x2 button, on the right, just under the bin icon.

    edit: oups didn't see Erikminus already answered.

    Note: I understand the way of learning by having someone to show you something, it really helps, yes. We all have different learning styles.
    Have great fun.