Logic or maschine?

Im a maschine user, I was formally a MPC user, I have come into contact with logic, and I hear the stuff that can be made with logic, in my own opinion Im starting to think that Logic might be a better choice. When you make a beat, you want to be able to just arrange and mix, and on to the next 1. With maschine you make the beat, arrange it, mix it, then bounce it, and mix it again in another daw, Like I dnt wanna do all that, or maybe Im just givin up on maschine to early, IDK, just venting some of my thoughts, but I think I might go to strickly using logic, and get rid of the maschine, the same plug-ins I can use in maschine I can use in logic, and then with logic, I dnt have to bounce down. And we all knw logic sounds great.

 

If linear arranging is your big decider then why not try out something like reaper which does all that for a fraction of the cost of Logic.
You can even try it for free to get a feel for it.
I think you would really miss the integration of Maschine and the performance aspects.
I do agree that the arrangement side of Maschine is pretty poor but it shines in other ways.
And anything can sound great, it mainly depends on the ideas and not the technology.

 

Maschine (wich i own and love one) is nowhere near comparable to Logic (wich i also own and love).

They are two COMPLETELY different types of gear!

If i had to choose, id get Logic.

You can do in Logic what you can in Maschine; but you cant do in Maschine what you can do in Logic.

To be honest, Maschine is just a workflow improvement for some people.

 

It really depends on your workflow. Coming from using an MPC Maschine may fit your workflow better. Either way is a good choice to go. Logic is great, its has a very powerful midi implementation and the included plugins sound great. If possible get both, but if you must get one then Logic would probably be my first choice if for nothing else than how versatile it is as a DAW. You have more capability than just Maschine. I do have to say, that Logic can be a bit tough for newbs. It has a lot of functionality and while the plugins are great, some of them aren't the easiest to wrap you head around. I really wish Apple would "applefy" some of the plugins.

 

What ever do you mean?

 

Like Kraster suggested, Reaper would be a great alternative to Logic (which you can use on both PC and MAC) and you can use Maschine either as the master or plugin within Reaper.

It would almost be like using Kore 2 inside another DAW, a host inside your host.

Guess you'll have to find out which host is the most.

Beetlejuice? Oh yes.

 

don't think of Maschine or Logic.

think Maschine + Logic.

btw, Logic only uses AU Plugins... Maschine uses both AU and VST. you can't load VST plugins in Logic.

my 2 cents, i much prefer coming up with ideas in Maschine but i would always mix them in Logic.

sowari

 

I'm Logic and Maschine too.

 

I agree with those people who have said they're different beasts and not really comparable. I think you will make quite different music if you start using only Logic (or any linear sequencer) because it will force you to work a different way. I think the combination, as suggested already, of Maschine and Reaper is pretty good. A lot of people like Maschine and Live and other Maschine and Logic. Because Maschine is not (and hopefully will never be) a full-blown DAW, there will be some aspects of production that are lacking in Maschine alone and that must be supplemented by the use of a DAW. However, to say that you can do everything in Logic that you can do in Maschine is not really fair because of the way Maschine allows you to do things and its integration of software and hardware.

As for us all knowing that Logic sounds great... Do we? Surely it depends what you do and what you're playing through it. Or is Logic actually this miracle worker and it can convert all of your old crap half-tracks into masterpieces?

Try stuff out and use what works best for you.

 

Some thoughts.

Comparing the two is IMO a very a poor ground to start off from.

hm, well I can see this being one legitimate philosophy. I certainly can see this if you are making music/audio for commercial purposes. That is, whatever gets the project done quickest may be the path to choose.

That said, this is not at all my experience. For me, and to be sure everybody differs, music/sound-making is a rather iterative, repetitive, circular process (I do electronics, [minimal]-techno). There often seems no end in sight. Then at some point the pieces, arrangements, sounds, patterns, effects, just fall in place. Also, I tend to use different systems, incl. quite a few outboard gears (sequencers, midi-fx-gear, synthesizers, delays, etc.). So i don't necessarily see the process as linear. In all, i always (repeatedly?) end up back in DAW CUBASE 6.

Seriously; music is a creative process. Don't reduce it to 'efficiency' and cutting corners. Logic might indeed be all you need (I don't know Logic), but don't make your decision based on some ominous 'workflow'.

Be aware Mixing is an art, or shall i say witchcraft. The mixing is one of the more painful processes (IMO). With that in mind; i never use use Maschine for 'final mixing/mix-down'. If only that there is outboard and inboard gear that in my experience Maschine just does not cut it (the midi routing, and vst implementation is still very shaky, for example), also the single-core support is a serious serious serious serious drawback. At last, the EQ's simply don't cut it for final mix-downs (IMO).

My last thought. Even if you setup is a basic onem try not to reduce your question to the binary DAW or Maschine, if you can. You will just confuse yourself.

i won't recommend any DAW, because everybody tends to recommend what they are using . Only to say, the answer depends to a large extend on the 'type' of music you are making & $ (google some reviews).

 

Maschine is great for playing live...I have never tried logic in a live situation but dont find it as intuitive as other DAWs though it does sound good. Make beats in Maschine, mix it in Logic.

 

Make simpler.

 

Listen i've used Logic before, for recording purposes and and production, Im also a maschine user, I come from the MPC2kxl, so as far as the the maschine kinda being like an mpc, yea its cool, I luv my pads. Its just that I used logic before and I liked it, but me being such a MPC head, I went and grabbed the Maschine, I haven't really had all the time in the world to work with my maschine, I've made about 30 beats on it, 5 of em good, with great potential, 20 of em unfinished, the other 5, Uh. And I just keep thinkin bout the time I spent in logic, the sounds, the ease. Like I said, I was just venting some thoughts, not tryna start a comparison between the 2.

 

Sounds like you've made up your mind.

And I just wondered what you meant by that particular comment. I've seen a lot of posts (in various forums) where people seem to be under the illusion that one DAW sounds so much better than another by default. Someone even offered $500 recently on KVR to make Ableton Live sound like Samplitude...

That's probably not the issue here but it did make me wonder.

Basically, if you think you work better and enjoy using Logic more, go that route.

 

Yea, I think I did pretty much make my mind up. See it took u guys for me to see that.

 

Logic is VERY intuitive.

most ppl just dont read the manuals. (***the real manuals are here http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual***)

 

I sketch ideas in Maschine and Ableton but my final mixes are always done in Logic. My uncle swears by ES2 and some of other instruments within Logic but I lean towards Komplete. So I guess what I am saying is all them have their strengths and you need to use them all or just stick with one to learn.

 

Definitely not arguing that, especially compared to the versions before 8. I've been using Logic since it was still on the PC (Logic 5 Platinum). Frankly theinterface is a lot better than it was before. Still some of the plugins could use some work. Almost all of the instruments pretty much haven't changed since they were first introduced into Logic (some/most in version 5). They could user an overhaul, imo. The ESX24 MkII looks archaic compared to Kontakt. Apple really needs to revisit some of these instruments.

That being said I can't really get into any other DAW. I don't like Sonar. Live's navigation and lack of the slice tool drives me bat **** crazy ( I just bought the stupid thing too) and Cubase doesn't have a clean enough UI for me. I've stuck with Logic for all of these years because despite Apple letting it gather dust while tacking on token features and not fixing bugs that have been there for years the program is very powerful yet still easy to use for all of the features it has.

I think Apple should rewrite Logic like they recently did with Final Cut and possibly take it a new direction instead of playing catch up.

 

what he said !

 

I co-sign sowari on this as well. I make my beats with maschine and use logic as my tape machine (albeit a nice one with lots of effects built in )