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Make a damned Maschine DAW MODE now!

Discussion in 'Feature Request Archive' started by Mr Mahogany, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. Mr Mahogany

    Mr Mahogany NI Product Owner

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    I'm so tired of the crapshoot needed to get Maschine to work within a daw. I ONLY work in a daw. make a mode that

    1 always has sounds to midi notes

    2 always has thru turned off on Sound Input

    3 always has midi sounds going to host

    I'm sure there is more but just make a launchable DAW mode so I dont have to set this crap up everytime. If one thing is forgotten a nasty feedback loop still kills a session. Why cant this be dont for folks working with Maschine in studios??
     
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  2. Mr Mahogany

    Mr Mahogany NI Product Owner

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    The problem I'd see with a template is that the user would have to research each update and redo the template. Also not sure if a template would solve the issue of midi thru not reliably staying turned off or each loading of a Group resetting functions. The user shouldnt have to program Maschine, I think NI should. If they would finally start thinking about the category of users and tailor the software for Standalone and DAW ; I think lots of problems could be solved and category specific use could be improved. Maschine continues to be a minefield , at least for long term users. Considering he changes from 1.5 to 2.3, people that use Maschine in a DAW as a vst have an ongoing nightmare setting and resetting functions everytime a Group is auditioned and , at least for me, eventually you run into the wall of feedback as a reward for trying to work fast and missing a checkbox. Just make a DAW mode. I'm never going to DJ
     
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  3. Mr Mahogany

    Mr Mahogany NI Product Owner

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    ImNoDJ, send me your phone number. I'll call and read the response that I wrote above to you
     
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  4. b-righteous

    b-righteous Moderator Moderator

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    A template won't work.

    The three items listed would solve the issue. Does not seem like it would be very hard to implement either. Just a global way to set the midi thru and output for all sounds in the group at the group level. Group level I/O routing already stay put when loading new groups so this would solve it. Another way is to have global preference for these things as defaults.
     
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  5. Mr Mahogany

    Mr Mahogany NI Product Owner

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    yes, B, I'd like to see either approach adopted. Then ,maybe the developers could start to implement additional functions tailored for DAW users and keep a separate development path for Standalone users. May sound like a lot ,but NI developers are clever and they could possibly come up with new features to attract more users in each camp. There have to be a lot of other folks out there that are never going to use standalone and want the old ,mile a minute workflow back
     
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  6. dysanfel

    dysanfel NI Product Owner

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    1. I want to change kits without every MIDI setting reverting to default
    2. I want to record and edit my MIDI in my DAW seamlessly.
    3. I want to be able to use more than one group in Maschine represented in my DAW and it actually work.
     
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  7. Landais

    Landais New Member

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    Totally agree with dysanfel and Mahogany. Templates are just not sufficient if you have to do the set up once again as you load a new group. Maschine is an amazing tool for sketching but when time for a real arrangement/mixing comes, a daw is needed.
    As any group may be saved with the correct midi routing, a solution would be to save groups with the daw routing in batch mode but I am pretty sure that group format is not easy to be parsed for batch generation using any scripting language (python, or ...) (I do not want to save my thousand of groups with a correct setting manually).
     
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  8. dysanfel

    dysanfel NI Product Owner

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    They have to realize what is going on. It is hard to believe that no one at NI uses Live and wants to do their work within their DAW.
     
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  9. Mr Mahogany

    Mr Mahogany NI Product Owner

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    You're right about this. Especially if you look at the NI page on YouTube, most demo's by producers (especially hip hop) shows folks working within a DAW. The problems are so basic with DAW use that every person who has responded so far has made a suggestion that would solve the issue and make it better..
     
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  10. EATYone

    EATYone NI Product Owner

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    Perhaps not NOW, but in the next version?:cool: +1000000
     
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  11. dysanfel

    dysanfel NI Product Owner

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    I, for one, am not waiting. They have until January to fix it or I am bailing on NI.
     
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  12. dysanfel

    dysanfel NI Product Owner

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    NI won't even respond to my technical issues about using Maschine in a DAW., they just ignore this serious problem. Any suggestions on a Maschine replacement that will integrate with Komplete?
     
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  13. Disco-in-my-punk

    Disco-in-my-punk NI Product Owner

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    Hey Maschinists :) I too would like a daw mode, one where so long as I had record enabled selected on the daw track- midi notes would show up in the host channel and bypass the Maschine Sequencer recording notes. but i would still like to chord the chord mode and note repeat generating notes in my DAW track. Is this a doable thing?
     
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  14. dysanfel

    dysanfel NI Product Owner

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    We put a man on the moon with less computer power than a pocket calculator you would think this would be possible. Unless they just don't care or are too busy sampling more pianos for Komplete 11.
     
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  15. dysanfel

    dysanfel NI Product Owner

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    THIS!
     
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  16. retrograter

    retrograter New Member

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    Given that this actually was a bit easier in previous versions of Maschine, I am starting to wonder if NI is purposefully trying to discourage integration with other DAWs.
     
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  17. fluxitation

    fluxitation NI Product Owner

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    DAW Mode NOW!! +1

    I want to use Logic Pro X sequencer with my Maschine Mikro mkII because I don't really like the Maschine sequencer at all, and it does not play with Logic pro 100%.

    Why use a sequencer in a sequencer? that is beyond me.

    When using Battery and machine the pads is not as responsive (velocity) as in Maschine mode, that is strange? Both are Native Instruments programs.

    This can not be so difficult to do native Instruments?
     
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  18. larserik

    larserik NI Product Owner

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    In midi mode each template has their own settings for velocity.
     
  19. Uwe303

    Uwe303 Well-Known Member

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    And please native make Maschine follow the host timeline!!
    wihout the need to select all scenes!!

    Uwe
     
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  20. dysanfel

    dysanfel NI Product Owner

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    It ain't going to happen. I am not waiting. Selling my Maschine.
     
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