Make Traktor work with Serato Hardware

Perhaps both companies are willing to make a hot-plug (similar to the audio 8 dj XLR-like plug.)

DJ's will still need to bring (and buy) their own soundcard, but hooking up to the mixer would be easier..

It would even drive the competition away. I see no downside for both companies.
They also use the same connectors now (RCA), and would drive competition further away.

Press release:

Traktor and Serato, the 2 most pro dj apps have decided to make a new connection standard together..
One plug that instantly connects 4 stereo in and stereo out.

Would be sweet.

 

a better "think outside the box" idea is that we shouldn't be using scratchamps at all, and the interface should be included in all club DJ mixers (aka "TS certified").

unfortunately this concept is taking forever to implement even though the technology has existed for years to make this happen for both NI and Serato. pure stubbornness is the only reason DJ's are walking around with scratchamps and a bunch of cables in the first place.

scratchamps are essentially hardware dongles, which maximizes profits for these companies (similar to Digidesign's strategy with Protools).

 

I was suggesting a more easy implementable solution.

You have to think outside the box - in their boxes.. or it won't happen.


Would love to carry just an USB stick..

 

Scratchamps arent just dongles they are stereo soundcards. Just think of all the companies that would be p*ssed if no-one bought a soundcard.
Probably hit to many companies to hard for it to happen.
More likely for more soundcards to become usable with the DJ software.

Dont get me wrong if i could just stick my FireWire/USB cable into the back of any mixer id be very happy.

 

This is what needs to happen:
Pioneer needs to make a DJM800s with a soundcard built in that supports Serato and Traktor. They also need to build CDJ1000s with MIDI In/Out and/or HID native support for Serato and Traktor.
Dj walks into a club, pulls out laptop, plugs it to the mixer, opens program of choice and rocks the house.
The Holy Trinity of the Dj Wolrd: Serato, Traktor, Pioneer, all working together... and we are all happy!
... and then you fall off your bed, and wake up!

 

After which you let the cat out, remember you don't in fact have a cat and proceed to drag it back in by it's tail.

 

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The company that provides the most seamless integration of hardware and software, will, in the end rise as the new standard for the digital DJ. Partnerships sometimes are necessary to advance the development of those new standards, but is up to the artist/consumer to imagine the new directions in which new technologies should be implemented.
The diversification and implementation of new technologies by different companies makes it almost impossible for a standard to emerge, therefore a solid integration of software and hardware is the key to success.

 

It would be up to Serato to provide ip to NI so they could support the soundcard.

It doesn't have proper asio support and that is the problem.

However, the Audio 8 could totally run SSL no problem but do you think Serato will support it?

Not in a million years, just like they weren't willing to support the Scratchamp2 when I asked for a open demo version back in 2006 so I could get a pair of SSL timecode and test it for myself.

No product trial, they lost me interest right there because SSL was not readily available in my area and I was already using Final Scratch for years and made the transition to DJ Studio 3.

 

There are certain Brands in the Dj world that are recognized as industry standards. On the hardware side, we have brands like Pioneer, Rane and Allen and Heath. On the software side side we have brands like Native Instruments, Serato and Ableton Live.
Pioneer is undoubtably moving into the digital Dj world by offering the ability to control the software through their hardware. They are and industry standard, but they won't offer a CDJ1000 with the ability to control software until they are completely sure they have a reliable and solid product on their hands. Hence, the introduction of the CDJ400, which is a product that will pave the way for future implementations on their flagship model. The DJM800 provides MIDI Support and most likely will evolve into a full fleshed MIDI controller, more or less like the Allen and Heath Zone 4D.
Ableton live also realized the need of a hardware software integration. Despite the fact of supporting countless controllers, the company understood the need to provide a more integrated solution. They partnered with another industry standard, Akai, and now we have the APC40, which most likely will boost sales for both companies.
Serato partnered with Rane, another industry standard, and we have probably the best integrated solution for a mixer and a DVS system.
Native Instruments has done a great job of providing support for various hardware alternatives, and the options for the consumer are quite appealing. But the complexity an flexibility of the software is making it almost impossible to create a great software and hardware integration. Maybe their goal is not to be an industry standard, but a very flexible software and hardware solution that will appeal to anybody. Which make sense for a economical point of view.
Flexibility and forward thinking features, does not necessarily translates into a Dj standard, unless there is solid level of hardware and software integration.