Maschine+ 1.3.2.3 bugs

Hello!

System version: 1.3.2.3
Maschine version 2.14.4(R891)
Firmware: 0.1.6
SD Card: SanDisk Extreme PRO 256G SDXC UHS-I, formatted in Maschine+
Connections:
Behringer UMC404HD via bottom USB connector
Roland Fantom 7 via top USB connector (MIDI Sync is disabled)

1. When doing some edits to song/patterns/events/etc (during usual editing workflow) Maschine+ constantly thinks that Master Volume mode for 4D-encoder is enabled. But i didnt press VOLUME button to enable it and the button is not lit. So when i'm trying to move playhead (SHIFT + rotate 4D-encoder) it ajusts master volume instead. And when i trying to move event selector in piano roll (rotate 4D-encoder) it does not work too. So almost every time when i want to move playhead or event selector i have to press VOLUME button twice to really disable Master Volume adjustment mode.

2. Copy/paste of events works inconsistently. Sometimes it pastes at playhead position, and sometimes it pastes with offset +1/16 to first copied event despite playhead being specially positioned to intended paste position. GRID button is ON in both cases.

2. Maschine+ doesn`t see audio interface (Behringer UMC404HD) after boot if interface was powered on first (before Maschine+). It works fine when you power on interface when Maschine+ is already booted. Replugging interface helps too.

3. Settings/Library/Products/Updates: Updates to Phasis v1.1.0 and Raum v1.1.0 are still visible as available to install even after successful installation (tried multiple times) of these updates.

4. First shutdown after enabling Airplane Mode takes very long time in most cases. Next shutdown times (with Airplane Mode still enabled) are normal.

 

The Mode of the 4D Controller is a problem since the first Maschine+ release. This seems to be a new variant.

Is it really different from before? I've never fully understood when events are inserted at the original position, one step after the original position or at cursor position. My gut feeling for copy events in Pattern 1 and paste in Pattern 2 is:
- Cursor at same relative position and no event at cursor location: Events are pasted at original position maintaining micro timing offset
- Cursor at same relative position and existing event at cursor location: Events are pasted at one step after original position, quantized
- Cursor moved to new location: Events are pasted at cursor, quantized

Not using an external audio interface, but there's still the problem that the internal interface needs to be manually re-selected to get audio working properly.

Cannot confirm.

 

I've made some tests and it works same way for me. And to paste at playhead position its required to move playhead right before doing paste. So 'Copy - Move playhead - Paste' works fine. But unfortunately manual doesnt say a single word regarding this. And to paste at current playhead position i need to move it forward-backward to end up in same position just to be able to paste at it. I think it would be great to have option in preferences to 'Always paste at playhead position'.

One more thing - its not clear it is a bug or just intended (but not very convenient) behavior:
After pressing 'Pattern' and selecting pattern for editing by pressing corresponding pad this pattern instantly sets up as active in current scene. So every time after editing some pattern i need to fix currently selected scene by activating pattern which should really play in this scene but not pattern which i've just edited. It looks like very fast workflow to construct song by filling scenes with already existing patterns but not very well suited for lots of editing. Maybe i'm doing something wrong and patterns could be selected and edited without automatic modification of current scene?

 

LOOK MUM NO COMPUTER TWO CURSORS

 

three point one ;P

 

To delete project you should be quite insistent:
1. Create new project
2. Save it to SD-Card
3. Create new project
4. Go to Browser and select project from step 2
5. Press ERASE and DELETE (button 8)
6. Get error: 'The selected item could not be removed (write-protected)'
7. Press OK (button 8)
8. One more time press ERASE and DELETE (button 8)
9. Project successfully deleted from the second attempt

 

Confirmed.

 

oli@bass, What card type do you use? I use quite large SanDisk card, and what special about it is its full read/write speed is only achievable with SanDisk`s own special card rider. But same time i dont have any issues with file operations when this card is mounted to computer from inside of the Maschine+...

 

SanDisk Extreme 256GB microSDXC UHS-I A2 V30 U3

 

IDEAS mode displays wrong data

Prepare and save project:
1. Project with at least two banks of groups with patterns and events. It is not required for all groups to have sounds, patterns and events, but at least one group from each bank should contain such.
2. It also should contain some song structure with at least two scenes
3. Project should be saved with Group Bank 2 activated (selected)
4. Project should be saved with SONG mode activated (not IDEAS mode)

Steps to reproduce:
1. Important: Turn on or reboot Maschine+
2. Load project
3. Press IDEAS to get into SONG mode.
4. Switch to IDEAS mode (SHIFT + Button 1)
5. Bug: despite Groups Bank 2 is being active, both screens shows patterns and controls for Group Bank 1 instead.
6. Rotate any Knob to change pattern. Both screens instantly switches to Group 2 data.

 

Bug with assigning pattern to song Section.

1. Open any project with song structure present
2. Switch to IDEAS mode by pressing IDEAS button first and SHIFT + Button 1 afterwards
3. Press PATTERN. Here we have possibility to select pattern from current Group for current Scene using pads. This is fine, everything works as intended.
4. Deactivate IDEAS mode by pressing IDEAS one more time, or CHANNEL or PLUG-IN buttons. Make sure IDEAS(Song) button in top-left button block does not lit anymore. So starting from this moment we assume we are not in IDEAS mode and do not want to assign patterns to current Scene.
5. Press PATTERN
6. Select any other pattern using Pads. Lets imagine we just want to do some edits to pattern, not to change Song structure.
7. BUG: switch back to IDEAS mode and observe pattern selected for editing is set as active for current Section.

 

Slice tool in sampling section neither respect project time signature nor allows setting slicing grid and number of slices to other than fits 4/4 signature. So slicing of loop with 3/4 time signature (and all other) is impossible in any mode except 'Detect'. But even if in this mode it manages to split such for example 6/8 loop correctly then it maps it to 8 beats instead of 12 in new two-bar 6/8 patterns it creates.

 

I think this is in fact a feature: You can still change a Scene’s Patterns without leaving Song mode.

 

But we are not in Song mode anymore, we are in some other mode - channel settings, plugin, or any other. And even if its a feature its quite strange feature indeed, it leaves no opportunity to edit pattern without breaking song structure. And its quite confusing because every time before editing some pattern user have to switch to ideas mode to check what pattern is active for current section for now and after finishing with edits get back again to ideas mode to return section to previous state. So if user forgets to check and remember current section state it becomes very confusing, time consuming and breaking flow to sort out what is going on and why song doesnt sound as intended anymore. Because all what was done is length of couple of notes in couple of patterns was changed but this small edits broke all song and its required now: 1. to check which patterns for which groups was edited and 2. find what patterns were active in affected sections before edits and set them active again. Dear NI developers, could you please address this issue!