Maschine 2.0 as plugin in a DAW w/o internal sequencer

Maybe I'm just missing something, but in V1.x there was the option "sound to MIDI notes" and use the host sequencer for Maschine. I can't find anything like this in V2. The best I could find was for each sound to respond to a different MIDI channel, but what I would like to achieve is to have Maschine as a drum sampler without its internal sequencer and have all 16 sounds on the same channel. As I see it, now in V2 I have to have 16 tracks of MIDI on channels 1 through 16 which does not make sense to me at all.

All I want is a MIDI track in my DAW sending individual notes to Maschine, which trigger the 16 sounds. Whether or not I mix the drums in Maschine or go to 16 mixer tracks in my DAW is another chapter (but that one I understand just fine). So again, am I missing something or is this not possible in V2 anymore?

Thanks!

 

You need to manually change all sounds' MIDI channels (in their input properties) to the one you want them all to receive on i.e., the channel your DAW track is transmitting on.

Yes, it's a ball-ache compared to 1.8 to set up. Yes, everyone has complained about it. And yes, we are of the belief that NI are going to do something about it. At some point.

 

Setting the groups' input channels works for the OP's scenario - for me anyway.

 

I.e., just open a kit, and set the group's channel to a single midi channel.

 

Page 370 of Maschine Studio manual.

 

Thanks guys! I did 'read' the manual (well, not all 700+ pages) and think I'm doing it as I'm supposed to as described on page 370. True, there's no need to go to every sound and set their MIDI input value, doing it once in the group's setting does the same (unless you want to over write the group's setting with a specific one for a single sound).

But,.. The problem I'm having is that once I did that all the notes in the MIDI file go to the same sound, the one highlighted in Maschine. I would expect the different pitches to be spread to different sounds, but they don't. In other words, a simple beat with bass, snare and hi-hat (that used to point to Maschine V1 and work fine) now creates a mess, i.e. all notes trigger the bass (or snare, or hi-hat if I select them in Maschine), but not all at the same time with their respective notes. Uh, am I making myself clear? I hope you get, what I'm describing..

Maybe this is a bug in conjunction with Presonus' Studio One V2? I don't have any other hosts here to check.

Also another thing I'm missing is MIDI output from the Maschine controller into my DAW, I cannot get Studio One to receive MIDI from the Maschine controller, this was easy to accomplish in V1.

These two problems are MAJOR for my workflow with Maschine as a drum machine sequenced by the host DAW. It looks like I'll have to change my workflow and start using the internal sequencer because apart from that I'm really liking V2.

Why don't the devs at NI just add a "external mode", which disables the internal sequencer and makes Maschine behave like an ordinary drum machine with an awesome controller? Am I really the only one who dislikes running a sequencer within a sequencer?

 

Aye, I got my inputs and my outputs mixed up. Apologies. It's the MIDI drag and drop and MIDI output that causes more grief.

 

No problem, thanks for trying to help! Also I've just tried again and now it works as expected, different MIDI notes trigger different samples in Maschine. I don't know what I was doing wrong yesterday, so my last post can be pretty much ignored, sorry!!

One problem remains though: I can not get my host DAW to receive MIDI from the Maschine controller. Any ideas on this?

 

do you mean without using Shift + Control to put the Maschine Controller into MIDI Mode?

sowari

 

Yes exactly. What I would like is to drum on the pads in 'Maschine mode', but for Maschine to send MIDI to my host DAW for it to record the MIDI data. This was easy to accomplish in V1.

 

this no longer works with Maschine 2

sowari

 

Hmm, thanks for clearing that up. But I must admit, this pisses me off. Because this is clearly not a technical problem, but rather a conscious decision by NI to not let their customers work a certain way with their product. Not nice!!!

 

it annoys me as well. because i could use this method in Ableton Live.

but the rest of your statement just does no make sense.

sowari

 

No, you are definitely not. I badly want that mode too.

 

Which part does not make sense? All I'm saying is that the folks at NI chose for this to not be possible, rather than it being impossible to implement. And this I find not nice on their part. :-(

 

so i presume you have proof that this is the case?

sowari

 

No, of course I don't have proof in the strict sense. But the fact that this was a feature in V1 makes it pretty likely they dropped it in V2 because they chose to and not because they couldn't get it done. Don't you think?

 

maybe this feature was more by luck more than judgement - you could never do this in Logic or Pro Tools for instance.

sowari

 

Well the entire menu with the option "sound to MIDI notes" is missing in V2, so..

But alright, I'll give the devs the benefit of the doubt and make it an FR then ;-)

 

Sounds To MIDI Notes is for playing sounds in Maschine 1.8.2 from a keyboard.

it has been replaced by the Group MIDI Input.

sowari