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Maschine 2.0 Random Noise Transport Stopped

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by Just Phab, May 23, 2020.

  1. Just Phab

    Just Phab NI Product Owner

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    Ghost in Maschine On The Real. Has anyone had this experience. An existing Project all of a sudden plays a random sound on a repeated cadence and the transport is not even running. Sounded like someone taking a hammer and pounding.

    deleted the database from the Library and let it reinitialize and that appeared to fix the problem but it resurfaced again? Bout to give up on NI. This product is infantile and far from mature. Definitely can't perform in front of clients with this type of constant instability.

    I can't get through a single project without some kind of technical challenges with this thing. Glad I still have my MPC for sure. Keep losing faith despite giving it multiple attends sadly not sure how anyone can create anything with all the technical distraction with NI.

    If anyone has anything to add I'd appreciate it sincerely.

    Specs:
    Maschine Version: 2.10.1
    Audio Interface: Universal Audio Apollo 8 W/UAD-2 Satellite
    Computer: iMAC i7 (Late 2012) 16G
     
  2. Blindeddie

    Blindeddie Well-Known Member

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    Did it resurface after you played the project and then stopped it or before even playing the project? (on initially loading the project)
     
  3. Gazbo

    Gazbo New Member

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    I had something tonight where I was just flicking through sounds and the sound locked and started to stutter.i could select other sounds but the same data noise was apparent.i had to delete the group I was working on and reload the group but I lost my pattern aswell
     
  4. Just Phab

    Just Phab NI Product Owner

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    Started before even playing after initial load.
     
  5. Jeremy E Shaw

    Jeremy E Shaw NI Product Owner

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    Are you running this in standalone or plugin mode? Looks like standalone mode based on the specs you listed.
    Is it running in 32 or 64 bit mode? What Mac OS are you on? I use mine on a fresh win10, focusrite scarlett 8i6, in both standalone and in VST mode inside cubase, and Ive never heard anything like that. I just got the Komplete 12 full pack, as well, so Ive been flipping through much content and have not heard any noise like that.

    Calling this MK3 (3rd gen) product "infantile" is, itself, a fairly infantile and ignorant thing to say, and may lead to less help being offered. Its been in development for a while, and compared to other controllers in its class (I spent MONTHS researching before buying this), it is spectacular, its workflow is amazing, and its performance stuff is some of the best Ive touched.

    I started my journey here a little frustrated, being a nearly 20 year cubase/other veteran and being confused by NI-specific nomenclature, etc, but the support offered here in the community was fantastic, my issue was solved once I reached out, and Ive learned how great this thing can be in the right hands. Trust me -- give it a few and come back when you arent frustrated, lol.
     
  6. Just Phab

    Just Phab NI Product Owner

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    This sounds like the same thing. That is insane haven to delete all your work within a group in the middle of a session is unacceptable functionality.

    Any clues on where NI is on this issue? Seems to be crickets despite the volume and magnitude of issues with this product.
    Hi Appreciate the candor

    Current bug is in Stand Alone Mode but I have used it as a plug in with PT but not encountered the issue I reported.

    My reference to infantile is not based on elapsed time but characteristics of the software itself.

    If it’s 3rd Gen then one would expect it to behave as such and to infer ignorance is unwarranted.

    I too perform due diligence when buying equipment and have a Pro Advisor I deal with exclusively. MPC doesn’t generate random sound when nothing is triggered or transport controls are idle.

    The forum is great but I’m not in this business to spend my time troubleshooting software and hardware.

    The goal is to create music. HW/SW are simply conduits to get to that end game.

    I agree the workflow is nice but the stability issues can not be ignored and shouldn’t be defended but fixed.

    Appreciate and respect the perspective but I’m straight no chaser.

    It’s quite simple. I need products that are stable with repeatable functionality and this falls short with NI based on my personal experience.

    Native Access could use some refine as well. They have demos that if installed duplicate records etc and corrupts the database.

    A deinstalled or removal option should be made available from this platform in lieu of a forum note stating a bug exists instead of fixed the stinking code and disallow and add validation to prevent incompatible installs.

    It’s their own product.

    Anyway enuff said. Once NI comes back online I will log a ticket and hopefully get remedy to the issue.

    Let me know if you have anything of substance to offer beyond being a cheer leader for NI. Glad things are working for you and with all software it’s gets better with time ideally.
     
  7. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    Have you checked all the Sounds and Groups in the Project for where this mystery sound is coming from? My guesses are either a plugin that can make sound without input, a delay effect with its feedback up too high, or perhaps audio inputs are enabled somewhere and running through an effect.

    Whatever it is, it is very uncommon and 99.9% of the time is just something like the above scenarios.
     
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  8. Jeremy E Shaw

    Jeremy E Shaw NI Product Owner

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    You deal with a "pro advisor" to make product decisions, and yet you feel personally confident to be judgmental toward the maturity level of this platform? Weird. I am someone who is considered an advisor on a variety of tech systems issues, and the time I've invested into learning this platform shows me anything but an immature product, immature features, etc. That's just silly, and this is you being frustrated. I get it.

    I looked at the MPC, as I am an Advance49/VIP user, but I didnt much like the interface nor what is under the hood. I prefer my far more powerful PC platforms to be the DAW, and the last thing I would do is limit myself to a DAWless, DAW 'appliance' environment like the MPC. Just doesnt work for me. Ive never had any of the issues you seem to be experiencing here, and I see the issue you are complaining about isnt your real motive for coming by, is it. You seem to be criticizing the ENTIRETY of this product, and trying to gather others to your opinion instead of just... discussing the issue about the weird noise coming from your standalone maschine2?

    If you check my very, very recent comment history, you can find me displaying a distinct lack of patience with NI because of a miscommunication between myself and NI. I also did not read the nearly 1000 page manual before coming here because, lol, I rarely read manuals and find myself able to navigate most systems without them. I admit this here and advocate for patience and learning because of the support that was shown to me here by community moderators. They won me over, yeah. I respond well to being taken seriously and having an experienced mod stick with me until my issue was resolved. Ive been working with vendors for decades.

    Good luck finding the source of your persistent issue! You using a USB hub? Did you do any routing inside maschine2 in standalone mode? YEah when I first bought it and started playing around with routing, I got a screech/distortion sound a few times but that was me creating MIDI and sound loops. It sounded a lot like what you describe above, but who knows.