Maschine 2.3 issue with Massive macro parameters.

It does not appear to be a problem with Massive as it works fine in Maschine 1.8 (i.e. a preset that loses macros in 2.3 does not do so in 1.8).

 

@Joca Unless we have the Massive programming code in front of us none of us can jump to that conclusion.
Massive might have code that only gets triggered in 2.3, or it could be a DLL issue. All integrated software has dependencies on each other. I stress I'm not saying it's not a Maschine bug either I'm just saying you can't jump to that conclusion.

At this stage it would be most useful if the OP responds to the specific questions asked by @sowari. Get the issue troubleshooted first.

 

okay can we stick to this thread please.

i need more info about your computer- what OS are you using?

we also need to clarify factory vs third party.

please give an exact description of your working method.

so for me.

1. i inserted an instance of Massive (VST) on Sound 1 using Maschine's Browser and my Maschine Studio Controller.
2. i then changed the view so i was in 'Edit Mode' and when to the Massive Browser and loaded 3 Octave Sub

this is what i got:



however if i try to load a third party preset from the Massive Browser, i get:



and yes, there are no knobs in the Maschine GUI.

BUT

i have imported this folder into the Maschine Library so if i load it from the Maschine Browser i get this:



i think that you might find that this is 'By Design' in other words we are expected to load Massive patches from the 'Maschine Browser'.

if you want to load a Massive patch and see the knobs in the Maschine GUI then that patch must be imported into Maschine via the Library or saved as a Maschine preset - nrkt file - after you have assigned knobs to the controls.

basically Maschine won't automatically assign knobs to the Massive GUI.

sowari

 

REMOVED - Best wait for the OP to respond above.

 

basically Maschine won't automatically assign knobs to the Massive GUI.

Which I hope you can agree on, is a bug.

I have over 1100 presets, some just don't feel like being imported into the Maschine library, like my own presets and my riddim presets... Also it makes finding them a hassle, just opening them from within Massive is what I /want/ but /can't/ because of thiis *BUG*. Hope we're clear, it is a bug, as opening presets that I made for absynth and fm8 work just fine, no messed up parameters, it's just massive, a.k.a. it's a bug.

I'm running Windows 7 64bit professional with a overclocked i5 4670k 8gb ram and a nvidia gtx 780. On my mac, which has the same issue, I'm running yosemite.

 

I'm not clear...
If you use the Massive factory library presets (rather than third party) do you or do you not experience this issue?
I'll be even clearer - do you experience this with 3 OCTAVE SUB?
Check @sowari last post.

 

If you scan your Massive user presets into Maschine's library the presets will open OK using Maschine's browser. However, when selecting the same presets via Massive'e browser within Maschine they do not open correctly. An advantage of using Massive's browser is that it has a favourites sub section.

 

Is it possible to have a specific answer?

 

No, no I do not. Opening my own patches, yes.

*edit* to make sure you won't say "so where's the problem?" THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM. I can't import my patches into maschine, I can't work on my fking tracks and WIP's because all the parameters have vanished....

 

Right may I suggest you contact NI support and get it confirmed whether or not it is "by design" or not. Paste the issue number here if you like. Thanks.

 

Come again?? enhancement request?| You wot? It can't be by design because if it were, it'd be like that in absynth, fm8, monark, razor, every fking NI product; but it's not, it's not because it's a bug, it isn't by design, it can't be because when trying to use macros from Maschine to get the BROKEN massive to work, there is nothing, it's empty, when I can easily use macros on Serum and Nexus, also on Massive when I haven't opened up a preset from within Massive....I cannot comprehend how you deny this as being a bug, even before posting this thread I sent a "bug report" support ticket... This needs to get all the attention it can get because my workflow has literally been compromised.... I use Massive for my leads, plucks, subs and basses.. I use my own patches, patches that can't be imported into Maschine for whatever reason, patches I NEED to automate in order for them to do what I want them to do....

I'm seriously pissed and almost on the verge of selling my Studio.. But I won't because I do like Maschine, and selling it is a hassle....And I'm lazy, but this is seriously doing me head in.....

my one day off, first 3 hours of downloading and installing now I'm only on the forums trying to get attention for this BUG... fck this man.

 

The people you need to get attention from are NI not us. When you contact support you can point to this thread and at least state the behaviour is reproducable by others and you are not alone. Nobody is denying the behaviour exists. Only NI can confirm whether it is an enhancement request or a bug. At the moment it's a grey area.

For what it is worth it took me 6 hours to get Komplete Select into a workable state (for me)... I have heavy customization.

 

Well now you've got my attention; elaborate?

soundcloud?

 

I just have the library files in different places, I have to move them around and adjust the registry parameters most of the time, then test... PITA!

 

firstly are you saying you could load your patches from Massive and see the knobs in Maschine with Maschine 2.2 but now when you load your Massive patches with 2.3 it does not work. i need you to confirm that it worked with 2.2.

and if you load Reaktor User LIbrary Ensembles from the Reaktor GUI - they are not automatically seen as Maschine knobs.

also, i loaded a third party Absynth patch via Absynth and got this.



sowari

 

why can't you patches be imported into Maschine?

you can either:

1. assign the Maschine knobs to whatever parameters in Massive that you want or
2. put the patches into a folder and import that folder into the Maschine User LIbrary by using Add in Preferences

sowari

 

I'm not seeing this behaviour (on Windows 8.1), though I'm not sure I have all the details...
I've only tried with factory content. Is this just the case for user saved presets? And just for presets saved within Massive as Massive presets and to Massive's own database/library (i.e., nothing to do with Maschine)?

 

Hmmm, sounds annoying. If it is "by design" it should be changed IMO. Browsing patches in the plugin browser (whether Massive, Absynth, FM8 etc etc) is much more intuitive than Maschines browser.

 

Load a patch from the plugin's browser and save it as a preset in the Maschine GUI (with no knobs). Do the knobs reappear when you reset the sound slot and then load that preset from the Maschine browser? If so, I would say it's a bug

 

Ok, I edited my confirm above!

No problems with controls of 3rd party presets !
I have around 30000 massive 3rd party presets.

I understood your problem that your automation line in Maschine of the controls disappear if you browse to the next massive preset, sorry.

Do you have the right dll of massive ? Eventually you have updated massive dll in the wrong location and use old massive dll in maschine....