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Maschine 2.7.3 is out

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by envyme, Apr 5, 2018.

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  1. THE WIDOWMAKER

    THE WIDOWMAKER NI Product Owner

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    so you can have alternates rather than just linear velocity scaling i expect, i've never looked at the options although i don't have mk3 either
     
  2. synkraw

    synkraw New Member

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    really like the idea view and event page recordable, it s cool, for audio it seems ti have some clips i 'd not before.
    But it's a good way.
     
  3. Frank P.

    Frank P. NI Product Owner

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    THE WIDOWMAKER
    (I forget to "reply")

    "wow is that just on the mk3 then?
    i never used recording in maschine other than sample engine and i never have an issue"
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    thats with every audio interface you use. :(
    when you record "audio" in sampler or in audio loop-recording.
    the recording is not in time.
    thats very frustrating and I hope Mick will give a statement to this very soon.
     
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  4. gingerman

    gingerman NI Product Owner

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    I'm happy about the update, but some instructions would be nice :confused:

    I checked my Machine folder, and the latest manual in there is for 2.6.5 :eek:
     
  5. adri77

    adri77 New Member

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    No idea view for Maschine Studio?
     
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  6. poet666d

    poet666d NI Product Owner

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    Pretty good update imo.

    Your lack of punctuation means that is his name now whenever I see one of those videos.
     
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  7. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    So nothing for the Studio. There is no technical reason why the Studio is getting left behind but NI keeps pushing features to the MK3 and ignoring the Studio like they didn’t ask us to pay 1K when that came out.

    Except for the audio interface and touch strip ALL the components in the MK3 are exactly the same as in the Studio. Why can’t we get macro mapping? Why can’t we get the ideas view? It makes no sense.

    Man, **** you NI! I mean that from the bottom of my heart.


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  8. Olihop

    Olihop NI Product Owner

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    Pre-hear volume always not available in user library ???
     
  9. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    There's a mistake in the release notes Mick @ NI , it says Ideas View was added to the MK3 but it is also available for the Studio.
    Calm down, please.
    Ideas View is present on the Studio like i just said, it was a mistake.
    Whats wrong the Studio Macros? Mine work fine.
     
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  10. CH7

    CH7 NI Product Owner

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    Most Daws allows you to compute the latency, and then compensate so that the audio being recorded, 'lines up' with the audio already in the daw.
    Maschine is the exception because what we record in, is expected to be 'treated' or sliced to the right size, and then 'triggered' in the sequencer.

    That said, NI should already know the latency produced by their hardware, and for that reason they should have the latency adjustments built in. [where the MK3 interface is specified for recording]
     
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  11. rcmusic35

    rcmusic35 NI Product Owner

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    logic integration for studio? or really only for mk3 ? why?
     
  12. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    I am confused as well...
     
  13. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    Sorry ima bIt disgruntled today.

    As for the macros, the ability to map macros with a touch like on the MK3. Is that in the Studio yet because last I checked that still doesn’t work/isn’t there on the Studio.


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  14. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    It's ok. Oh, the Set Macro feature, I had forgotten about that, nop, sorry not available yet. (Consider making a feature request when you have a chance)
    Don't forget there are things that MK3 owners still don't have that are available in the Studio, imo the new model should have priority.
     
  15. Frank P.

    Frank P. NI Product Owner

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    I don't talk about cuted or sliced material. People who sample at the beginning of the process and than begin to work in the sequencer have not the latency problem. thats true :)

    But when you record "in sync" in the audio module (or sampler) Maschine does not "sequence" the loop. Its exact the same as in any other DAW.
    the recording begins exact on the beginning of the bar.
    The Maschine Software knows also the latency of 3rd Party Audio Interfaces. (ok, not the exact converter latency, but thats not the problem).

    I work with 2 UAD Apollo and the audio prefs in Maschine shows exact what the latency is.
    This should/must be compensated !
    thats absolute necessary. otherwise the loops are not on the beat. And Maschine is a Beatmaker and should sample/record exact on the "one".

    the loop recording is a killer feature and I am very very happy that they integrated it now ! I love maschine. IMO its the coolest tool for creating music
    but it makes no sense to record in sync when the Software does not compensate the delay of the audio interface/ buffer size
     

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  16. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    I used to think so, nowadays I am not so sure.
    It seems to be going in the direction of a Loop Station or Loop Player, which I personally absolutely hate, id much rather have sampler features being worked on because i bought a.... sampler. I guess the market for guitar, bass, etc players that want to use Maschine is getting bigger but that's certainly not the majority of users... not by a long shot.
    Sorry, it's been a while since I complained, I'll get back to being positive now.
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. SupremeSoulstice

    SupremeSoulstice NI Product Owner

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    I respect your opinion but why should the MK3 have top priority? The Studio was touted as the flagship correct? The MK3 should always have to play catch up. Seems only right for those who purchased the Studio at that price point. Just my opinion as well.
     
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  18. Frank P.

    Frank P. NI Product Owner

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    thats a good attitude. I also try to be positive.
    you are right man !

    I only wanted to say that maschine should play "straight" or "in time" :) and therefore the audio latency should be compensated.
    I think this is not so complicated to correct. For me it would also be cool to have a simple parameter box that allows me to correct the timming of a loop im ms +/-
    I only want that my loops are playing at the same "one". its a lot of work to cut f.e. 10 ms at the beginning of every loop and paste it at the end
    :)
     
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  19. Frank P.

    Frank P. NI Product Owner

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    I also like the feature to activate/deactivate selected loops of a group on a pattern. :)

    But can someone explain me how it exactly works on the MK3?
    I tried it and sometimes it works sometimes not. may be I m doing something wrong.

    the release info says the following:
    "Alternatively, the loops can be enabled or disabled via the STEP page on the hardware controllers"

    so I select a PAD/Sound go to "step" mode and press the Pad. than the loop should go on/off.
    but when I do this for 3rd or 4th pad/sound nothing happens with the loop.
     
  20. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it was the flagship for 6 years... now it's not. You bought what you bought for what it was at the time not for what it should be 6 years later... Recent models usually have priority generally speaking, especially when released underdeveloped and rushed like the MK3 was, there will always be a couple of things only available in the latest model but so far i wouldn't say the Studio is being overlooked.

    It should be disabling the loop, but you need to be in Loop Playback Mode, it's not meant for Gate.
    Working fine here, If it's not working you may have a bug.
    It's super awkward for me to have 16 pads that do exactly the same thing for one sound/pad in step mode though...
     
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