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Maschine 2.8 "The Future of sound"

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by OGTracks, Jan 24, 2019.

  1. raphaël_

    raphaël_ NI Product Owner

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    the whole is maschine a DAW or not discussion is a bit pointless.

    it's more about that they don't have any direction where to go from now. the software is collecting dust and if they would have been working on a song mode since 2016, it would be ready by now. good thing is, other products like push or mpc actually get some dev treatment and could be an
    acceptable alternative for the future.
     
  2. telecode101

    telecode101 NI Product Owner

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    the thing i am tinkering with below i think you cant do the guits in just maschine. you need some thing like a linear DAW like cubase, but i was watching some online videos yesterday about how some people are using MPC X as a fully portable solution and they are managing to use vocals and guitars and in the MPC software. Even john mayer is online doing some sort of jam with just him and a MPC X. It would be nice if NI looked into updating Maschine to do the same. v

     
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    telecode101 NI Product Owner

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  4. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    Humm... What he is doing on the MPC in that specific video can be done in Maschine, even that part in the end where he actually records the Guitar, that's why NI added loop-mode as sampling function for the Audio Module.
     
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  5. Skalamanga

    Skalamanga NI Product Owner

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    Any pointers on how to do that? I tried to record external inputs like guitars and found the workflow to be unusable.

    One thing I'd like to be able to do is use maschine as a backing track, and be able to record guitar parts with it.
     
  6. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    I guess the scene has to be as long as what you're aiming to record with the guitar, set Rec mode to 'Loop', desired length and target as 'Take'; to have time to get ready press 'start' in the last bar before the loop re-starts; after you record it should play back automatically, to record more layers just select a new pad.
    I have only tried this for simple stuff and it works well enough, but of course, it's not as flexible as a daw.

    jef just did a tutorial, it covers more than what you're asking but around 4:30 you can see him recording guitar lines.
    https://www.native-instruments.com/...ble-to-monitor-with-fx-video-tutorial.354831/
     
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  7. Howl

    Howl NI Product Owner

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    i always forget that you can do it also via the jam, how to do it, jam has a slightly different approach, o well forgetten, my age... yes, RTFM. but it is a nice feature.
     
  8. ALDREAD

    ALDREAD NI Product Owner

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  9. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    Says who? :p
     
  10. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    ME :p :D
     
  11. Skalamanga

    Skalamanga NI Product Owner

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    Awesome, thanks. I've been through the current manual, but the info is just too convoluted. That document is way simpler to understand.
     
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  12. ALDREAD

    ALDREAD NI Product Owner

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    Cool , glad to help
     
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  13. Skalamanga

    Skalamanga NI Product Owner

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    Got it working thanks to this and the doc from al'dread. I can now start recording by hitting a pedal and play through an amp sim, but record the dry guitar for re-amping later. If I'm not happy, I can record another take.

    Thanks for the pointers.
     
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  14. mmjarecki

    mmjarecki NI Product Owner

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    I’ve suggested many things as have tons of other ppl but do they listen that is the question. More guitar centric stuff and kits to make it easier to keep timing spot on. I’ve had maschine since mk1 and the improvements have always been for EDM/hip hop stuff. The stopped going for the high fruit and don’t seem to even care about low hanging ones

    That being said it would take a catastrophe for me to switch after all the software iterations and learning I can’t even be bothered to learn much with cubase and just use maschine as my daw. I would be better at music if I learned a daw. Maybe I’m just dense but I would rather play music than be a 50% musicians and 50% engineer

    At some point would there be any litigation for not delivering promises? Or just incomplete deliveries. Look at the current Nintendo suit
     
  15. CakeAlexS

    CakeAlexS NI Product Owner

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    Maschine is not a....

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  16. mmjarecki

    mmjarecki NI Product Owner

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    Meme all you want I don’t use anything but maschine to record,compose, mix and export. If it’s a duck. Oh nevermind.
     
  17. BigPictureSound

    BigPictureSound NI Product Owner

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    I would consider your choice of using Maschine exclusively (as a guitarist) to be more innovative and definitely not the status quo.

    Maschine was modeled after the classic MPC with a modern NI twist to knock out beats and pave the way towards a Komplete ecosphere using your fingers to program. A linear DAW with comping would have been my first choice if I planned on recording guitar.

    I think it’s cool you took the unconventional route (which will make you unique among the 100000000 guitarists using linear tracking) but expecting it to have “guitar” related enhancements added is kind of like buying a Honda and expecting it to become more like a Toyota.

    While many of us eagerly await a streamlined arrangement view and other critical enhancements, from one musician to another- I can say from experience that limiting yourself to one software is to your own detriment as a growing artist. Regardless of the features Maschine may or may not add, it is a good idea to diversify your software tool set with other options if for nothing else than variety.
     
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  18. skinswashdc

    skinswashdc Well-Known Member

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    The frustration could be that some try to use Maschine for something that it’s not. The whole “indie musician” target audience is covered by several daw companies. NI in my opinion don’t really fit that lane compared to the Dj/producer audience (which is NI primary its customer base). But of course you can use Maschine for however you see fits. But by far the area of strength is beatmaking with Maschine.
     
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  19. mmjarecki

    mmjarecki NI Product Owner

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    I agree with everything you’ve said. While I don’t expect NI to cater too much to a niche like guitar. I don’t think it would be as hard as what others suggest going further down the same rabbit hole. Creating one shots for the pads even with close truncating does get difficult if playing over say 120 bpm however, you are right about universe because I’ve never heard anything like it. The stick guitar sounds coming from the angle of guitarist is subpar at best. I’ve invested about 6k on my home studio so there’s no reason not to make it fit.

    It was out of necessity because I knew very little in cubase and knew mk1 could. It’s become exponentially easier. While It does sound different,arrangements are my weakness and maschine is great for on the fly layouts. I don’t know why people say it isn’t this or that because obviously if someone like me is using it for that while it’s not made specifically for tracking guitars it adds bonsuses that traditional daws don’t. And I don’t really expect anything because I’m realistic I’m just stating what I personally would like to see. Plus the major other reason besides convenince was to not be just like moron 5 or dump buzkit

    I have been learning maschine from that something joe guy on YouTube from adsr but nobody seems to do tutorials on guitar maybe I should.
    I will probably learn cubase or protocols I do have the free versions but right now I think I should master maschine first. I do love it but I do hope they continue to innovate and not rest on their laurels
     
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  20. muitosabao

    muitosabao NI Product Owner

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    " A digital audio workstation (DAW) is an electronic device or application software used for recording, editing and producing audio files. "

    recording ✓
    Editing ✓
    producing ✓