MASCHINE and KOMPLETE KONTROL Development Updates

I used FL for nearly 10 years before moving on and I can honestly say I absolutely dislike the way the pattern pool works as well as how clips handle midi event data. I have to disagree with using FL as the approach of which to model after.

I am reserving any critique of this announcement until after I have a few months of actual hands on testing once this update drops- but I can say that it sounds really, really great!

 

What is “record midi directly into the timeline”?

Is it “capture pattern performance into the timeline”?

Edit: ah it is the clip thing

 

It's just a number tho, my assumption is most people expect a lot more than just Clips on a new major version which would make it kind of disappointing if it were to be V3.

It's technically not hard to use but it's too soon to comment on usability, generally I'm very opinionative but in this case I dont know yet, I dont want to be harsh on something that is still being developed.

This won't answer your question for but since (as of now) empty Clips silence the pattern behind them I can see people using Clips as a quick Mute workaround, it would only work Group-Level and it's far from a perfect solution tho.

Because of what i said above about Mutes it's your first assumption but without the overlapping part (as in you dont hear both the Pattern and Clip, just the Clip).

What do you mean by linked? Editing one Clip affects another linked one? If thats what you mean I have to say I agree although I would just prefer if Clips had the possibility of not being unique on the timeline, having a ton of dupes for transitions is very odd to me (especially on the HW), I went on and on about this in beta.

+1000

I meant that in case of a workflow based on FL (or similar) things can tend to sway towards a mouse-based approach as you mentioned in your first paragraph; - I personally wouldn't mind it, I already arrange with a mouse in the DAW like the majority of users and freeing some parts of the software from the controller limitations could open many doors to make the SW better and more advanced, highly controversial topic and many won't agree, especially here. I do see your point of not trying to compete VS solutions that already do certain things much better. On the smaller controllers, people already work with a mouse a ton, that should have some weight on the equation aswell.

An offset wouldn't be enough, it would need to be combined with the possibility of more than one Pattern per Section since there would be no dual layer, the latter seems like it would be more of a development challenge since things were not built like that from the ground up, if I am not mistaken it might be the actual reason for the approach they picked but i never fully understood the exact technical reason.

I am hoping that the approach chosen is what's required for the foundation needed for more manageable Audio tracks, Performance Recording, and a bunch of other common requests.

 

An update to the Song mode is overdue and it looks like what's under development now addresses many shortcomings that forced people to use a DAW for completing projects, especially when working with long vocal or other audio recordings or creating track automation.
However, Maschine should remain the hands on performance instrument it was originally designed for by James Walker Hall and therefore it’s essential that we can access all the main the functions from the controller and don't have to resort to too much mousing around.
In that vein, we should be able to record a performance with Scenes in the Ideas view as a Song, capturing all real time control movements as automation lanes...sort of like Ableton ins doing when recording from Session into Arrangement.
Off course Maschine should also allow us to complete projects from finish to end along with vocals and extended automation tracks, but beyond that it should stay simple, tru to its original philosophy and not overflow with features to compete with DAWs. One of the strong points of Maschine is that it helps people FOCUS on the main tasks with optimal hands on workflow.That is also based on simplicity and less can be more.
I've been using Maschine since day one and as a Maschine course designer had meetings with James Walker Hall and Florian Grote where this and also Song mode ideas were discussed. That was in 2014 and 6 year later we might finally get something I understand that they are not part of the design team anymore now?

 

Awesome! I look forward to trying out the new clip feature, and doing more work directly on my MK3 inside maschine! This is a bonus+++ for me, as I do 100% of my MIDI and recording work in cubase, but suffer extremely painful nerve issues on my right side and try to use mouse/keyboard as little as possible some days.

I would loooooooooooooooove (love) to see aftertouch enabled in maschine2, though, in future updates!! Dedicating AT to the arp/note repeat seems silly, but I understand the technical limitations/choices that led to it. I sometimes spend many hours playing only the arpeggiator on 64th or 128th notes, just so I can experience the really nice AT ability the MK3 has across many instruments, whether or not they work well in arp mode.

 

1) comments from the project lead in the past that implied they were considering allowing more functionality in the GUI without being worried about whether its doable on the hardware

2) it not being a priority in the beta

 

Is there cause for concern that the hardware can't do something the GUI is offering, or will offer? It sounds like the devs weren't concerned about it. I'm confused. Is there something specific you are worried about?

 

Wow It s a fantastic update , if the hardware will be able to control each new feature it will be the real future.

 

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Hi. When are you going to fix the SXXMK2s so that you can change hardware midi channel direct form the keyboard instead of
using templates, as well as, using the keyboard without having to unplug the USB cable when using external hardware,

Thank you.
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I would think if it came to not having a feature at all if it couldn't be replicated in the hardware would be rather restrictive. That being said I haven't seen any indications that that is totally not considered.
These are early steps on something relatively major and I imagine many of the balls are still up in the air at the moment and no one is quite sure where they are going to land.

 

Great, great, great ...

 

nice looking forward to it

 

Great news!!!

 

You didn't get my point, if it's going to make version 3 we'd have to pay so it's not 'just a number'!

 

I am excited to see these new features.

is it possible to also unlock sample chop with the pads when using the mikro mk3? That would really put this update on the map for us user that have both the mk3 and mikro mk3 for travel.

 

This is pretty much where this update will hopefully head.

Yes, for now a clip pretty much overlaps everything under it (useful sometimes, not so much other times). People in the beta argued that it would be nice to have a "blend" mode. Let's see if that makes it. I personally think it's a must to have a blend mode.

 

I am looking forward to the changes but I really think automation needs some love, too for people to get super excited. I think the new approach to patterns and scenes could be good, but like others have said.... I worry it may make things too complicated to do on the hardware by itself. Guess we just have to wait and see.

 

I would clearly not pay for this...but thats just me

Automation curves would be really great, also what pushes me to another DAW

And definetly hyperthreading as this would be the only way to have comp/arrang/mixing in one project

 

Oh... Well, rest assured then, you will not need to pay for this update.

This is my understanding as well.
If I remember correctly they mentioned that the software is the first focus and only then they move on to polish the hardware side, I'm assuming when release day comes both sides will be polished, so it's only really an issue for testers and most things if not all will be available from the HW.

For sure.
Seeing MIDI from both the Pattern and Clip overlayed would be nice too, I bet a lot of users who ask for "Ghost Notes" would love it.

 

It’s 2020. Can we get some emancipation for our NI controllers? It’s pretty astonishing that there isn’t an option for me to free my new S49 from my Mk3. Id like to browse drum, bass and sfx sounds from Mk3 in one group and melodic/harmony sounds on S49. No dice. Gotta have two Maschines open which is no bueno for cpu. Or am I missing something?