Maschine and Usb 3.0

with USB 3.0 coming out soon, will native instruments give those who have maschine now the capability of changing out the usb 2.0 connector inside or maschine with out breaking the warrantee? or will it even be available for maschine?

 

I hope, maybe with a converter someday. the faster the better.

 

Eh? USB 3.0 has been out for some time and the spec is backwards compatible.

 

honestly, what would be the difference?

 

you cant just change the connectors to upgrade to USB 3.0.

 

This. And, considering the controller's just a controller, the speed's a non-issue.

ew

 

are you sure ew?:S i think we will have more accuracy when hitting the pad? there is a millisecond delay when playing midi, i notice it! and i think that millisecond delay will be gone if we where able to have the usb 3.0 connector for maschine or just be able to put it in maschine our selves

 

yeah, it's not your cpu & soundcard that's responsible for latency *sigh*

The current flowes with almost light speed. USB 3 has more parallel currents with almost light speed than USB 2. Maschine doesn't need many.

*** edit: i know this isn't really accurate, physically. but it may help build understanding of what a controller really ist, an how few bits a controllers actually sends, to people who obviously don't get it. ***

 

1 msec is the minimum time slice dictated by the OS. Nothing will work faster than that - desktop OSs are not realtime OSs.

 

Yeah, the controller doesn't send that much data. It doesn't matter if your highway has 5 lanes or 20 lanes when there are only a few vehicles going along it.

 

If you can hear a delay of 1 ms, contact Guinness immediately:
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/

Seriously though- the average hardware synth has lots more slop than that between the first and last note-ons with a six voice chord- that runs anywhere from 5-10 ms. Do you hear the slop there? I'm betting you don't.

And, MIDI's a serial protocol with a rate of 31.25 KB/sec. The controller needs a little more bandwidth in Maschine controller mode, but not much. Even USB 1 handles MIDI without any timing irregularities; USB 3 will make zero difference with any current controller.

ew

 

hahahha for real no one can hear 1 ms delay

 

there is a delay and when working with vst's the more you add the more the delay be comes evident my maschine and keyboard is connected directly to the computer i recognize the delay usb 3.0 should solve this letting more data flow threw the wire and "improving the interaction between device and host computer"

 

Incorrect for the reasons already stated, sorry. USB 2.0 is already overkill for MIDI to be honest.

 

If Maschine had an integrated sound card then yeah that would make sense, however the real issue with latency is the sound not the controller. When you press a pad on Maschine that registers near instantaneously, however there are other things that the cpu has to do in-order to get sound out. It has to go through the cpu, ram and into you sound card. The real bottleneck is always going to be the soundcard. Why not get a soundcard with UBS3 or FW to improve your latency. Your mouse uses USB, do you notice a 1 millisecond delay their. What about your keyboard?

 

i get errors when searching threw my large sound library with reason that my computer is not fast enough, and when recording with 5 or more synths on a track in a daw. i will get serious delays or no sound at all when i start recording on track 6. i have the fire studio mobile connected to my mac firewire.

 

and what exactly does this have to do with usb 3? :S

 

Exactly. You've mentioned the reason why you have problems already:

How's USB 3 going to fix that? It isn't...

ew

 

i have been trying to figure this out for the longest time. even when i bought maschine i added the initial library everything was good as far as data moving threw the line, but when i added the library update which was bigger, maschine got heavier. there was a delay when searching threw the library so i had to hit the search button slower to scroll threw maschine sounds plus my external hard drive library had sounds and was connected . and as i said before when hitting pads during recording there was a delay recording midi notes in the daw when having more then 5 or 6 track with synths on them at one time. so what every one is saying is its the hard drive bottlenecking out and usb 3.0 will not fix this.