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Maschine+ Compatible interfaces

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by alexbuga, Oct 6, 2020.

  1. h4ndcrafted

    h4ndcrafted NI Product Owner

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    That’s interesting that they only left the mc707 with stereo in and out, but they opened up the MV
     
  2. ALDREAD

    ALDREAD NI Product Owner

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    Yeah I’m not sure why tbh
     
  3. BriFi

    BriFi NI Product Owner

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    My Arturia Audio Fuse Studio works so you can add it to the list.
     
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  4. h4ndcrafted

    h4ndcrafted NI Product Owner

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    Anybody used an Iconnect audio 2 with the plus yet ?
    It can have two host computers , so I’m hoping it will treat both my iPad and the plus as as it has a routing system.
     
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  5. nutterwithbutter

    nutterwithbutter NI Product Owner

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    Great List

    MC-101 works in Generic Driver Mode (stereo).

    In vendor mode, the inputs and outputs show up, but the audio driver shows up as Device Status "missing" and pressing play on the transport does not move the transport playhead (see attached images) - looks like it might be something that could work in the future as the MV-1 is working... fingers crossed as the way it is currently implemented in generic mode means that if I sample via USB I get everything playing from Maschine also recorded and not just the MC-101

    Device Missing.jpg Inputs.jpg Outputs.jpg
     
  6. dannyhawaii

    dannyhawaii New Member

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    SPL Crimson revision 1 only works in stereo 2 in/ 2 out) but does sounds great and doesn’t seem to have any errors.
     
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  7. h4ndcrafted

    h4ndcrafted NI Product Owner

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    Ok so here is my update

    Midi -

    SC Pro 3 Midi works fine and arp and seq runs in time, however beat delay on Pro 3 doesn't't sync , but that is a Pro3 problem not Maschine +

    Audio Interfaces -

    SSL2+ Audio interface No, not enough power ? just flashes on and off

    Audient iD14 , Same as SSL+ Just flashes (too bad best sounding interface I've used)

    Art Phono + (Audio interface with Phono pre amp for your vinyl) Works fine , appears as HwCODEC

    Dreadbox Typhon Synth V4 now does audio and midi over USB, can confirm it is working powered of Maschine + ...ohhh gooody
     
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  8. h4ndcrafted

    h4ndcrafted NI Product Owner

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    Anybody used a Babyface with the plus yet ?
     
  9. h4ndcrafted

    h4ndcrafted NI Product Owner

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    Also got ssl2+ and iD14 working , here’s how …

    used powered usb 3 hub but for some reason Maschine + does’t want to see my thumb drive or my these interfaces directly , so for some reason a random Anker usb 3 hub works as an inbetween , have zero idea why ? Obviously some spec difference.

    If I go through this usb hub everything works. The powered hub data goes out into the anker hub , which is then going to Maschine +. The interfaces are connected to the powered hub and they are seen and have enough power.

    anybody know why ? What’s the spec difference , they are all usb 3 hubs.

    5B40E8A1-67CE-411C-AB7D-D29012B6F97C.jpeg

    edit: seems that Maschine + needs a powered 2.0 hub , a lot of usb 3.0 hubs don’t seem to work for data and power for some reason ?
    If you have trouble getting a device to work , try a usb 2 hub, although for some reason the anker bus powered 3.0 worked.
    But using a 2.0 powered hub was much more reliable.
     
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  10. D-One

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    What do you mean by "all" ? Are you talking about the M+ internal ports? Those are USB2 afaik.

    The only reason I can think of is USB3 can deliver more power, 500 mA VS 800 mA, maybe due to this the USB3 device (HUB) can request more power from the M+ USB2 port. I have no idea if this is correct tho, just speculating.

    Im confused... Didn't you say that everything works when using the USB3 Hub? Or does it randomly disconnect or something?
    Also, are you connecting the HUBs to a power brick/wall? If not the fact that it is powered should make no difference.
    I have the same Hub from your pic and another smaller black Anker model and both work with a flash drive + my interface but then again both devices also work connected directly to the M+.

    The fact that not all Interfaces work is expected but your flash drive should work... so not sure whats going on over there.

    On a side note altho I never had any usb issues with MAS+ I've had many issues over the years with USB2 Hub's on laptops especially with more power-hungry devices (external hds, high IO interfaces), all problems went away when I moved to USB3 hubs... So USB3 seems to help generically even when using only USB2 devices.
     
  11. John Roberts

    John Roberts NI Product Owner

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    Does Maschine allow an interface as an input and the Maschine as the output? I.e. Roland mc-101 in for the zen core sounds, but output via Maschine line outs/headphone? Via a single usb cable so that it powers as well.

    I don’t think so, I thought I’d ask to be sure.
     
  12. h4ndcrafted

    h4ndcrafted NI Product Owner

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    It is confusing tbf, so I’ll try to be more concise here.

    I have 3 different usb hubs. A usb 3 hub that’s mains powered and passes both data and power on all ports. A Usb 3 bus powered hub, the Anker pictured. A usb 2 hub that is mains powered and passes both power and data.

    The usb 3 hub powers all devices I plug into it , but won’t pass data to Maschine.
    If I plug this into the bus powered anker instead and have the anker plugged into Maschine , then everything work , audio interfaces , bus powered synths with audio over usb etc.

    I got mixed up about the thumb drive , that works fine directly into Maschine, I was thinking of my Korg NTS which won’t power directly from Maschine , but does power if I plug it into the anker 3.0 bus phub , even though that’s only bus powered. Assuming that’s because the bus powered anker hub has the right pins for power and the direct usb 2 from Maschine doesn’t. Some how it translates to Maschine as an inbetween.

    lastly , if I use the mains powered usb 2 hub , everything I have seems to work fine, although this is all usb 2 so some usb 3 devices shouldn’t work , I guess mine are all usb 2 spec’d devices even if their output usb male are usb 3 and C.

    hopefully that makes a bit more sense to people , sorry for the confusion;)

    cheers!
     
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  13. Dan McHugh

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  14. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    No. You can only use one at a time.

    The M+ pinout can't be different from the standard otherwise no device would ever work at all not to mention it would be dangerous.
    USB 2 cables have two different connectors USB-B for the device and USB-A for host/computer exactly to make sure people can never plug the cable/connectors in reverse and fry something due to the pins being inverted. So whatever the cause is, it's not switched up pins.
     
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  15. h4ndcrafted

    h4ndcrafted NI Product Owner

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    I was not thinking of Maschine having the issue tbh , just not a power spec that was beyond the usb standard , I was thinking about the anker hub being made in a non conventional way so it was telling any device that was connected to it that it was suppling power.

    It still doesn’t explain why the anker works as a go between however. That’s got me really confused.

    plug in my korg nts directly into maschines usb a ports = no power
    plug in my korg nts to the anker hub that is intern plugged into maschines usb a ports = power

    it’s weird no ?
     
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  16. D-One

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    Super weird. Usually, cheap HUB's can create problems, in Maschine+ it apparently solves them...
    It would be cool if you had a multimeter to probe it and see what the heck is going on.

    EDIT> A friend of mine has one of those SSL small interfaces, I'll ask her to borrow it to see if I also have the same issue.
     
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  17. h4ndcrafted

    h4ndcrafted NI Product Owner

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    I may do a video just in case I’m doing something wrong.

    Also I’d like to amend about Typhon working , it does for midi and for passing audio, but because it is powered from Maschine I get the processing hum problem associated to Typhon.
    Obviously this means I have to power Typhon separately from another source , which uses up the USB port. As this is the only way to power Typhon, you can’t use midi or audio data as the ports taken up for power only.

    Bummer. YMMV

    That means that Dreadbox’s new Poly may have the same issue once it gets its usb audio update post release.

    In consideration, I don’t get why Dreadbox have included audio over usb , isn’t this only useful on Mac where you can easily make an aggregate device? What about Maschine + , MPC or windows ?

    I mean it can be done but then yr monitoring from Typhon itself.
     
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  18. Kjetil Bjønnes

    Kjetil Bjønnes New Member

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    I just bought the Jupiter xm, but i`m struggling with connecting it to the maschine+. The xm shows up in the midi and audio section on the M+ but in the audio section the device "Hwjupiterxm" is listed as "device status:missing».
    I connected the xm to M+ via USB. I used the large (Usb-b por)t on XM to one of the two usb-a ports on M+. USB driver on Jupiter mx is set to vendor. All midi TX and rx are set to on. Are there any other settings I should try? All midi settings om the M+ is also set to the Jupiter xm.
     
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  19. starcorp

    starcorp NI Product Owner

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    sadly the Fantom6 do also not work in vendor mode anymore. All In and outs are listed. But it state device is missing.
    Play do not run.
     
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  20. ALDREAD

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    Hi , Im on that Facebook xm thread , so it seems it’s not only the xm , as starcorp mentions the Fantom no longer works , I’m assuming the mv-1 isn’t working anymore either.
    So that would point to the m+ being the problem, and something NI did. Hopefully they can fix it
     
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