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MASCHINE+ Development Update: September 2021 and 1.3.2 Release

Dieses Thema im Forum "MASCHINE Area" wurde erstellt von Adil @ NI, 28. September 2021.

  1. OhulahanBass

    OhulahanBass NI Product Owner

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    If my Maschine + has not restarted for 20min post update should I just unplug it?
     
  2. terminar

    terminar NI Product Owner

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    Just to be fair to NI: of course they don't seem to ship the best available changeable accessories available on release - that doesn't make sense. But (just for cost effectiveness) a company would never sell really bad accessory which maybe will fail within the warranty time, especially with such "small priced" stuff like an SD card. If it fails it will just cost more in support and everything needed to fulfill the warranty. Also in my experience it is really complicated to select accessory hardware like storage. It also may differ when testing: we did select some NVME storage for an embedded device in my daytime job, did A lot of hell tests with around 10 different competitors. On release the company did some v1.2 of the NVME storage product, same name, same stuff, different controller. Product was bad as hell. Our tests were obsolete and we were not able to get the previous version anymore. generally for most of our customers that was not a problem. But let's call them "the power users" busted the storage.
    You can only be sure regarding accessory, hardware parts, whatever - using "real" industrial cycle hardware (and storage), even for sd cards. The main problem: this stability costs around 5-10 times more than "consumer" hardware. No end user customer would pay for it. Sooooooo... yes you are right, the accessory hardware may be really bad - but not by intention. I would not imagine that. If the integrated flash is killed within two years you are right but also again, NI (or any other company) tried to do that on purpose. It doesn't make sense.
     
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  3. DeepThumb

    DeepThumb NI Product Owner

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    Hi terminar,

    Maybe I was not able to express myself right and I understand your point.
    My comment was not NI specific and I know manufacturers won't sell bad accessories intentionally.
    However I'd prefer a list of recommended accessories. That's how the DSLR/DSLM and action cam manufacturers that I know act. So custumers are free to choose the quality and trust level and buy what they want.

    Of course then there will be some ranting: Where is my ... cable, my memory card? ;)
     
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  4. olafmol

    olafmol NI Product Owner

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    any first feedback on the improved stability? asking for a friend ;P
     
  5. tetsuneko

    tetsuneko NI Product Owner

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    I have somehow missed this. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll get a new SD card and try using it with the M+ to see if this eliminates the few remaining crashes I encounter.
     
  6. oldyella

    oldyella NI Product Owner

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    I've just noticed that Retro Machines no longer shows in the browser. It registers as installed on my Library tab though and even if I delete it from the SD card and redownload it on the M+ it still doesn't show.

    I'm not saying it's because of this update but it seems coincidental - anyone having this?
     
  7. darkwaves

    darkwaves NI Product Owner

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    I still see it when I do browse > instruments
     
  8. Camps anthony

    Camps anthony New Member

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    Depuis 24h M+ plantait souvent quand j écoutais des présets d instruments
    J'ai résolu le problème en débranchant mon câble usb
     
  9. DeepThumb

    DeepThumb NI Product Owner

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    Google translator please to avoid Tower of Babel confusion. ;)
     
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  10. Atie

    Atie New Member

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    Nah i want more fancy features!!
     
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  11. Atie

    Atie New Member

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    Have installed the update, not shure if this related to the update but i just lost half of my clips in a project. When adjusting a scene, and they did not come back when pressing undo.

    And with the complete lack of project versioning the whole song is now pretty much gone.

    Nice product when it works, but you guys should really hire some testers. Letting your customers test your software is just plain stupid. You are driving away the people who are already in your ecosystem with bugs, and missing or half assed features.

    And no i will not be filing a report. I have filed multiple reports, they have not resulted in anything and the amount of bullshit you ask when i file a support ticked is insane. I am not your tester. And to be honest, when i ged rid of my maschine plus out of frustration. I won't be your customer ever again.
     
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  12. Sedat Senguel

    Sedat Senguel NI Product Owner

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    Can't wait for 1.4 as I'm curious what will come ;-). So far 1.3.2. was quiet stable for me.
    Keep it up guys.

    Bye
    Sedat
     
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  13. Michael Gilboe

    Michael Gilboe NI Product Owner

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    For focusing on "Stability Updates" since I updated, my Maschine+ has been even buggier than it was when it first came out. I write every morning, but this morning I spent TWENTY MINUTES just trying to get a boot up that was stable and I just gave up. From loading with distorted sound, to just freezing after a minute or two, to randomly rebooting, the unit went through every single interation of unstable that it had ever had. How can I move back to the old version?
     
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  14. DeepThumb

    DeepThumb NI Product Owner

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    I would return every defective unit ASAP. That helps NI to learn fast and improve their QC!
    Out of other non FW related reasons I had to return mine in January after using it for some days only and since then the new replaced one is up and running.

    Of course NI won't disclose that data but it would be quite interesting to get the HW and/or FW/SW caused DoA rate of all delivered units.
     
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  15. djneural

    djneural NI Product Owner

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    So where are the details ? :);)
     
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  16. granmah

    granmah NI Product Owner

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    When are we going to have (such a basic function as) play or convert to mono? :D
     
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  17. CeeMusic

    CeeMusic NI Product Owner

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    I second this.

    Stereo to mono is what I'm waiting for.
     
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  18. Tim Bliss

    Tim Bliss NI Product Owner

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    Where can we find the firmware updater?
     
  19. Rico010

    Rico010 NI Product Owner

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    Turn on M+ in standalone mode, go to Settings->System
     
  20. Tim Bliss

    Tim Bliss NI Product Owner

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    Firmware Update
    In addition to the above, we are working hard to address the previously reported issues with the MIDI IN behaviour of MASCHINE+. These changes are not part of the MASCHINE+ 1.3.2 update, but will be made available via a firmware update (an installer that is run on a computer with MASCHINE+ connected via USB) in the coming weeks.

    I did the regular update... but it says here the particular fix for the MIDI IN comes from somewhere else.