Maschine hiccups after loading multiple groups with sounds. CPU usage adjusted. Help!

Hello fellow Maschinist: I'm having a tough time developing songs as I populate the groups with sounds. The more sounds I import the glitchier the project gets. It starts to sputter and hiccup just when I'm getting into the project. I have made the recommended tweaks to my system settings and it worked for a moment but the studdering has returned. Has anyone had this problem? I'm on a PC that is primarily dedicated to Maschine & Ableton. I use an ASIO interface. could my interface be the problem. it came with Reason.
I would greatly appreciate any comments!
Cheers!

 

I've faced a similar issue on my PC. As soon as you start populating the project with groups the clicks and pops start increasing. I use a scarlet 8i6 and figured maybe that was the issue and needed to upgrade the sound card but I guess everyone is facing this issue. I really hope there is a fix for this.

 

Thank you Shadaab. I am sorry to hear you are sharing in my frustration. Maschine is such a great sounding and wonderful looking tool that it seems too good to be true. And maybe that is the case: Is Maschine too good to be true? Let's hope NI really makes it the "Truth" and fix these issues without costly upgrades and expansion pack giveaways that don't work. Not NI bashing, just want the best bang for our bucks! Anyone else out there still getting the "Glitches??"

 

It really comes down to the specs of your PC/CPU and your audio interface. Both sort of work hand in hand and each can be the cause audio problems. Its one thing to be using an ASIO device, but if it has crappy drivers it will cause audio defects regardless of your PC specs. The opposite is also true; you can have a great ASIO device/driver, but a low-end PC can't always keep up with processing. Maschine is not the most efficient with CPU, so it can only take a few plug-ins on groups/sounds to overwhelm your PC. Increasing buffer sizes can help. Disabling non-essential system services, other programs, etc., can also help. Try configuring windows to improve audio processing -- see link below.

https://support.native-instruments....1729-Windows-Tuning-Tips-for-Audio-Processing

 

Wow & Thanks D-J-K! I thought I did some tweaking of my computer but apparently there's a whole lot more that can be done.
So diverting all power and updating all drivers may do the trick Aye? I really do hope so. I bought a 24inch Touch Screen all in One HP desk top a few years back specifically for music. I had grown tired of Mac elitism from my graphic design days and wanted a seamless internet experience to share my work, My internet sharing is great but my sound struggles from time to time. I'm going to painstakingly go through these motions and hope to come out sounding swift, crisp and clear! I am a bit caveman when it comes to new techy stuff. (One reason I'm still on Live8,+ APC40 in Windows7. It works and I get it.) Ive lost tons and years of work on each attempted upgrade to the latest iterations. Old files are not supported and boom! Its all dead! I appreciate the feedback and will let you know the outcomes! Until then///
Cheers!

 

Please be kind on this team but: Should I really consider getting a MAC? I hate that micro font.
How difficult would it be to get all my NI devices and plug ins on to a new device and then to get it all to work with Ableton again. And what about all my existing files that were made on the PC will they work in this new environment? I going to do as tweaking on my PC and see what happens. Do you MACheads have these hiccup issues? Let me know!
Much thanks!

 

Yes conrad! I've read the link and have executed the tweaks that I have not already done. I rebooted and played the last project which was getting really hung up with pops and glitches. Sad thing it was only two scenes with 5 groups with few sounds. Well after the making the recommended tweaks, I'm happy and sad to say that hiccups are fewer but they haven't gone away. CPU usage appears to be better. Things are sounding better though! Thank you! Cheers!

 

Good news gents! Ater doing a series of tweaks to my PC and several updates my PC is all tooled up and running at peak performance. Maschine was still a jerky but was definitely getting better than all of a sudden it would not connect to my STUDIO or JAM. Thats right! No controllers! Can you believe that? Well, fortunately me I've had enough tech battles with this thing that I figured I'd go to the Control Editor to see I could do anything there. Surprise! The Control Editor was on the blink too! Needless to say "Off to Ableton" I was but before giving up I decided to try and update the Control Editor. Of course I went to my Native Access account looking for it and naturally it wasn't there so I took a look a the NI site and found it in the downloads. I took a deep breath and went for. I'm happy to say "Eureka"! All lights are on both units and I'm back in my Captain's Chair ready to rock once again! The Moral of this story is "Never Give up & Update everything"! Thanks to D-J-K and NI Forumers! Cheers!

 

All done! PC is at Peak performance and Maschine is sounding better and better! I had to update the "Controller Editor" as well because Maschine stopped connecting STUDIO & JAM! Thank you brother! May your Music lead you to the light! Cheers!

 

What's up Don. I seem to be having the same issues. Could you let me know how many steps you went through? Did you go through the LatencyMon step, and did you update all of your drivers? I really need help with this. I haven't touched my Studio for 2 weeks, due to the crackling and lagging issues. It has drained my energy trying to figure out a solution. I have been hesitant to go through the steps on the website thoroughly. Also, did you see a significant difference? How many sounds can you load now?

 

Good day Brother Ron:
I feel your pain and wish I could tell you step by step what I did to get things running better. Unfortunately, I did a bit of jumping around, so my best advice is to follow the link provided by D-J-K https://support.native-instruments....1729-Windows-Tuning-Tips-for-Audio-Processing
print it out and go through the motions. It seems like a lot but in actuality some of the tips are basic. Then there are other things that are simple but you have to dig a little into your system. Overall, I think the big fix for me were the updated drivers for my ASIO in Windows 7. They are very current! It now gives me options for latency settings and they explain sample rates. I found this helpful. Also devoting as much energy to my PC by way cutting off any "auto sleep/ shut down" and allowing background programs first seem to be help full too. There was one factor that was not mentioned or I overlooked which was updating the "Controller Editor". Once I finished tweaking my PC I ran Maschine and my controllers weren't responding and there was no active link to connect them. I took a wild shot at trying to use the controller Editor to see if I could do something there. Lo & behold I get an Error Message that the Controller is corrupt or invalid. It recommended downloading the latest version. I had to uninstall the Controller Editor and download the new one from the NI site (not Native Access). Be careful though, the article talks about updating your PCs "Chipset & BIOS" I took a chance on doing this and my PC said those files were corrupt from the manufacturer (my guess is that they were outdated and my PC had already had the latest updates for those items. After restarting my PC I ran Maschine and on the first run still got a hiccup from a file that was laden with stutters. I closed the program in disappointment and tried it again. Eureka! The file was playing smooth and hiccup free. I immediately went into Ableton to see how it acted and I was pleasantly surprised as the smoothness of Maschine and JAM. I have a bad habit of letting my set burn all night! By the morning things were still going strong! Don't give up! Its a serious enough investment you've made so be patient and continue to look for answers. They're out there and this forum certainly helps a great deal.
Again, I graciously say "Thank You to D-J-K" for the direction! I was almost at a quitting point too!
Let me know how it turns out for you!
Illuminate your sounds and your music will follow!
cheers.

 

Don, glad I was able to help you and even more glad you didn't give up. One thing I would recommend, although it might a huge leap for you, is going up from windows 7 to windows 10. There's really no reason to stay on windows 7 unless you are not connecting it to the internet and using a laptop for live performances or something. Its fairly antiquated and probably the source of many of your audio issues in maschine or ableton. May I ask what are the specs of your PC and what audio interface are you using ?

 

Of course mate!
My current config:
ASIO Balance (Updated thanks to your recommendations)
HP Touch Screen All in One Pavilion 4yrs old. A beauty of a machine but the all in one is kinda of scary if things should ever go wrong!
Intel core Speed: PC3-10600 MB/sec Intel Core i5 2300
1TB memory
468GB of free Ram.
OS Windows7
I'n a little chicken of windows10 because I don't like living in the clouds. I need hard back ups because of all the bad experiences
I've had in updating operation systems and previous apps and files being non compatible. I just can't afford 4 years of hard work to just be non compatible!
I even purchased the Korg Electribe Drum/ Sampler (Red) to avoid having to use a computer. Of course the computers won!
I will give this heavy contemplation! I may even muster the courage to upgrade! No promises tho! lol!
Stay in Light and may the soundwaves carry you on!
Cheers!
Cheers!

 

You got me dancin Sir!
cheers!
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Thanks for the quick response Bro, and sorry for my late response. I have been very busy the last week, and I am just reading your response. I will definitely be diligent and go through the these steps. I will definitely respond with my results. I am so frustrated and ready to go purchase a new computer, which I really don't need to purchase right now cause I am saving for my wedding. But you know us men, we will find a way to get what we want, especially new toys!! My fiance would be so mad, but she would get over it. With that said, you give me hope, and hopefully, I will not have to go purchase a new laptop any time soon. Really, Thanks again Don. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge!! God bless you Brother!!

 

Hey Brother Ron
No problem on the response time and thank you! Unless one is a professional producer who is provided with a budget, its always a challenge to get these gizmos working as you would expect. There are always unexpected expenses that no one tells you about until after you've made the dive into the investment of time, money and energy. There's nothing worse than wasting time & money and building negative energy for trying to do something you enjoy.
Music making for me is a hobby and it seems like one for you too. That being said the impulse to have and do, can be consuming to say the least. I make this point because I am married 22yrs (if i recall) and music has always been a major part of my life. I once had dreams of making records which took many years and countless hours and dollars only to realize that the music was a grand illusion. But my passion has carried me through the decades and brought to the world of NI and Maschine. I mention my marriage because as you enter into yours time will have to be shared with your loved one. The digital age is not one that is kind to sharing time. Learning curves and slow machines often get ahead of the joy of making music which is why we bother with any of this. Your time is valuable and computers, DAWs and samplers can demand much if not all of your spare time if want to get that end product you desire. I've come this point in my craft only through sacrifice of time and money.
As men we tend to put ourselves last. So when the time is right (which is usually never) go ahead and bite the bullet on your computer if needed but until then continue to look for fixes for Maschine and your computer. You may not need a new one after all.
feel free to hit me up whenever your able to. I'm on facebook and twitter as well as Youtube. Until then good brother peace and blessings to you & yours and may your music forever be lit!
Salute!
Here's an early wedding present! Enjoy. The original songs "is I do love you"- the Moments or Delfonics I can't remember right now.

 

Don, I know your post today was directed towards Ron, but a lot of what you said hit close to home so I felt inspired to post. I too am a husband of 7 years now, with two beautiful girls. They are number one in my life followed by my career. I have many other responsibilities that will always have priority over music too. That means music can only be a hobby for me, which is both frustrating and discouraging, but it will always be a passion no matter my situation. I (did) dream of making it big someday, somehow or somewhere, in the music industry, then reality hit me that that the odds are heavily stacked against me. For now though, music will remain one of my passions and my medicine to deal with all those daily stresses in life, and to express and challenge myself both creatively and artistically. Thankfully, I have an amazing wife who not only puts up with my incessant desire to create, but she also understand that music will always have a place in my life. I'm very blessed.

You also mentioned the technical aspects of digital music/ computers being time consuming and frustrating. Its funny, because sometimes I find more challenge in resolving silly technical issues, or figuring out how things work instead of actually making music. Recently, I've spent hours on stuff like midi mapping Traktor into Ableton, creating Maschine templates, or making custom Ableton drum racks. And if I run into a technical issue, I'm always looking for a workaround or solution and sometimes its eats me alive until I find a way around it. This sometimes stimulates my creative juice more than actually making music, or sometimes it leads into a song.

Anyway, my wishes to Ron in entering marriage-hood and may the force be with you my friend. Hopefully after your honeymoon you will still have enough time, money and energy to make some awesome music .

Don, nice track btw . Reminds me of some early Kanye stuff when his sampling was more traditional hip hop. Grizzly Salute !

 

Yup I'm a dad of two girls also. 1 college the other entering high school. I spend late nights chopping and sleeping with headphones to try and listen to what I've done in my quasi state. You know what I mean!
Then we are a Team of Super Heroes! If NI is paying any attention to the community it has started, then I say only the best is yet to come! and even if they don't we will do the work that needs to be done. Not for the money but for the love of music and the art form. thank you for the kind words! We speak the truth which power and the source of creativity! So let us create and be intelligent and may the rest of world benefit.
Btw, NI is holding workshops at a Local guitar Center in NYC. are you in NYC if not check to see when they will come to you neck of the woods. finally thanks for the feedback on the track. I dig your "Street Legal" joint too! Maybe we are the next label for a real music industry!
Stay Lit! enjoy life, love and music!

 

Make sure that your RAM IS AT MAX I HAVE 16gb I can do whole songs or what you can do is complete your beat export it as a wav open a fresh project put the beat first group with the wav loaded as a oneshot trigger it at 1:1 so it will play all the way through you got to make sure BPM is in sync check your beat to the metronome


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I strongly recommend buying a Mac mini Mac seems to handle music creation better and for 600 and then another 100 for ram your set at 700 side note you have to have your own monitor or flatscreen tv another cool thing I e done is Velcro my Mac mini to bottom of the studio and in settings set my Mac mini to auto boot opening maschine app and because maschine has its little screens I was able to make beats feeling like it was Mpc like all in one unit


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