Maschine Hip Hop Thread

new track with maschine

new track made with maschine and default drums

http://soundcloud.com/bigbeats-1/97-1

 

really like the vibe of that sample und the overall sound of the mix , but im not much into snare rolls , in my ears they somehow fight the loose vibe of the sample...
i'ld like the track better without them.... but thats a matter of taste as well..

 

4sho man, i love constructive Criticism

www.soundclick.com/bigbackproduction

 

I need a lot of practice to get close to those guys, but I'm not unhappy with my first attempt.

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8685539
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Sweet!

 

BigBeats - I like it, I like most of your beats actually...

Just finished a track "SheLookedLikeLove"

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=1025521&songID=8687909

and changed up "DoubleDare" a bit

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=1025521&songID=8686086

Different style

 

@ bigbeats , real nice stuff u got going there on ur soundclick , mr. "not afraid of george michael samples "...,even like the snare rolls there

@lotuz , ,now bring on the inferno with even more noise layers,(believe its hard though ,think i'm gonna try something similar to learn)

@tac office, don't get lost in overpitching stuff(she looked like love),too bad we dont have time stretch in maschine to tune the pitched samples to stay deep and soulful in the end

 

Not bad man, honestly, I don't know how the Bomb Squad guys were able to layer stuff up the way they did without it taking incredible lengths of time. I was watching Hank Shocklee talk in the recent Copyright Criminals documentary about how he worked, and it seemed very collaborative, more like jazz composition, and just keep the four tracks running, and put the good parts together.

For me, I liked Public Enemy, lyrically, the sound was interesting, but didn't really hit me until I heard the juxtaposition between Sir Jinx and the Bomb Squad on Amerikkka's Most Wanted. That slow lazy West Coast sound mixed up with the frantic NY sound was the perfect combo to break from the NWA sound for Cube. Too bad he fell off so hard.

We Be Clubbin' almost made me want to throw away his older records. He became the character from True to the Game.

I spent some time playing stuff off of Predator and Lethal Injection from my brother, a punk guitar player, the other weekend, so then I had to go back and listen to a bunch of the other stuff off of those albums. My brother still loves Today Was a Good Day, but I couldn't convert him on the other tracks like Wicked and Down for Whatever... I love the remix of that one off of Bootlegs and B-Sides... and I always grin at "Damn. I'm broke... and my feet hurt... [vo: Inside the mind of a car jacker]" intro. Tom Brokaw gets mad props from me for this way of delivering gangster stories from back in the day.

Wish I had some of those recorded, especially the Bloods and Crips expose where they had interviews with all the little G's in their orange and purple rags, not quite affiliated yet but you know, they had to be down with the complimentary colors.

As for producers now, Dilla is a huge fav of mine (RIP), RJD2, Premier has been for years, DJ Quik from back in the day, Dre and Eminem's stuff isn't bad for a dude who started on the production side so recently, athough I am not sure what his production style really is, if he's directing or really getting in and working out the beats, but his tracks are usually enough to get me to bob my head, Mickey Avalon and Dirt Nasty for just the audacious sound, Diplo, Ant, Joe Beats, J-Swift, Celph Titled has a few tracks that blow me away. The beats that POS did on Audition for Half Cocked Concepts and for De La Souls are some of my favorite stuff right now, he did that under the Emily Bloodmobile name, and DJ Lethal's work on the La Coka Nostra album finally gets the hip hop and rock mix even more right than the first Transplants album did.

I'm finding a lot of hip hop inspiration in Dubstep production by dudes like Simon Slum, which is reminding me of old Ragga Jungle by the Ganja Cru and DJ Hype, who I still think have done some of the best work in that genre.

I never got into the late 70s/early 80s hip hop stuff, outside of Run DMC and a couple other standouts. I was never a big Miami Bass fan, and even now, I don't like Crunk and its permutations at all, it sounds lazy, too many looped 808 patterns, weedy synth lines over quantized hi hats, and weak lyrics with nothing but hook. I came into hip hop loving BDP, Slick Rick, Cube, and then moved off into DJ Shadow, Amon Tobin, Squarepusher, and so on. I love a lot of early 90s hip hop, the golden age stuff, mostly the east coast stuff from that era, but I have a soft spot for stuff from the Bay, even though for a lot of folks the hyphy stuff sounds so much like crunk they don't get why I can listen to one and hate the other. I feel like the good hyphy stuff (and yeah, I'm still digging E-40 most of all) is still telling stories, and the crunk stuff is just yeah, yeah, skeet skeet.

As the DJ Shadow track "Why Hip Hop Sucks in '94" put it -- "Its the money..."

 

the reason i hate new hip hop these days is because of just that its all about the money. I feel no love for the music anymore
but on a semi better note soundcloud is having issues but i threw a beat up
http://soundcloud.com/user4964067/if-you-dont-love-love-whos-going-to-love-you
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uh. it doesnt seem to be working again
ugh

 

@ Pawcut cool cool, only thing is im so new I dont know what time stretching is, can you explain in laymen terms ( i heard of it just dont know what it is)....also you guys were talking about layering? Common sense tells me "layer" the tracks but could you give me a quick description of this too or Lotuz if you got a minute, Thank in advance.

and as for the over pitching, i pitched(sped it up) to match the beat right, how can i correct this "HIGH" pitch, maybe in the effects?

 

it works now!

 

Alright, so I figured it was about time to do a little put up or shut up, so here's the insomnia-inspired track I put together last night, just grabbing a new piano loop and chopping it up, along with some drums and guitar licks that I had been saving for something else. Its not much more than a sketch right now, but unsurprisingly, this is how a lot of the stuff I make for myself sounds (although I don't usually sample lines from old Dre tracks). Since I have neighbors and hardwood floors, this didn't get the benefit of being listened to very loudly, but on the headphones at work this AM, it didn't sound too bad, so my guesses on the EQ and compression turned out to be about right. Still some clashing in a few spots and levels aren't where I want them. But for a couple hours of sleepless noodling, I'm pretty happy with the idea itself. The drums need even more chopping to lay out a couple different patterns, and it needs to have a real break down idea (I threw away two while I was working on it, I may go back to one of them).

http://soundcloud.com/ben-grimm/knock-twice

 

http://soundcloud.com/user4964067/if-you-dont-love-love-whos-going-to-love-you

 

And another recent track, my buddy wanted something to write some new lyrics to, so I was in the mood to do something more rough and mean sounding, but his lyrics are coming out pretty fun, so its a cool contrast. Not silly by any means, but his way of presenting himself is kind of self-deprecating, and his lines so far are on the kind Atmosphere, etc level. I'm digging them. He wants me to do a 16 as well, so I'm trying to write something that fits with his, playing against the thug-sounding track.

http://soundcloud.com/ben-grimm/that-aint-funky

 

You've been inside my head, haven't you? POS is my favorite as of now, his new album is ridiculously good, as is Dessa's new release which POS did a track or two for. Cecil Otter, I can't say enough good about this dudes work. The drums he lays down, and the vibe all his tracks give off is IMO second to none in that branch of hip hop. Doomtree as a whole is on the rise, much like rhymesayers ~2001-2004. I have a feeling we will see a whole lot more of everyone from doomtree, especially POS and Dessa.

As for dubstep, i'm super addicted. That **** makes you want to work, and gets your hair standing up when the drop hits.

 

anybody up for making a maschine project with chopped up already drum breaks
amen break/funky drummer etc with the sample to boot? im tryin to chop up the funky drummer right now

 

The bassline sure sounds funky to me. The drums could use some swing though. And some punch too. The LOTUG vocal sample is nice, but I think you should speed it up a little.

 

POS is hitting on all cylinders for me, the story telling, the non-bling bling, the honesty, the beats, the quality of the lyrics, its just top notch. Its harder to like POS more than Atmosphere, but in a way, I do. Its just that I identify way too much with Slug's lyrics all over Lucy Ford and some later tracks due to a bad relationship of mine, haha.

I feel dubstep is home for anyone who felt pissed off when jungle didn't take off in the US the way it had in the UK. It's that back to basics, minimalist structure that can be adapted, expanded, re-interpreted and still be dubstep, and it doesn't have to cater to the lowest common denominator.

 

That bass doesn't sound right to me. Are you sure you're playing the right notes? Maybe a different bass sound would fit better.

And do you have a lot of compression on the master? The snare sounds a lot louder in the breaks. You can also see that if you look at the waveform on SoundCloud.

 

Its funny, the track was named when I was getting frustrated with finding a good bassline for it, most of my track names are pretty random. And I rarely rename them after I decide on the first name, so stuff like "Greasy Guitar Guts" sticks around.

I'll give a try on speeding up the sample and yeah, drums can always swing more. I think I have them somewhere around 55% or something, not much more than that, so they aren't really back and forth like they could be.

After I was listening to The Chronic last night, grabbing that sample I used in the other loop, I was thinking I could grab the "I drop bombs like Hiroshima" line from that track, to finish off the Lords line... might be too disconnected, but would make a nice end of chorus drop.