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Maschine Hip Hop Thread

Discussion in 'Music made with Maschine' started by Kwan, May 7, 2009.

  1. sowari

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    who would have thought it :lol:

    sowari
     
  2. TacOffice

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    thanks pawcut....i went ahead and picked up melodyne (BADASS) best software EVER made period. Also picked up ableton live 8 and then reason 4.0 all last night = free of charge :D :D :D :D
     
  3. johnnybvo

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  4. Ben Grimm

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    You should be able to do it in the mix, you need more open frequency space between the kick and the snare, some bitcrushing and EQ'ing can really help pull those two sounds further from each other. Think about what it sounds like when the words BOOM BAP come out of your mouth, that's really the impact you want your drums to have. Notice the emphasis in the words, too.

    bOOOOm BAP!

    The snare should crack and the kick should thud, with nothing gluing them together, its the rhythym you are after, the flow, the head nod, that's what makes boom bap tracks so great. Your brain gets to fill in all the space, the lyrics don't have to compete with anything, etc.
     
  5. RawTech

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    Here is my first attempt to the world of Hiphop hehe. Coming from electro techno background it is maybe not pure hiphop but i want to share it with you. Maybe you could give me some hints for the future.

    Quick live performance with Maschine, Little Phatty and Cubase (sorry for driving level little bit against the wall)

    http://www.zshare.net/audio/73557761e79ff68d/
     
  6. TacOffice

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    Lotuz! this ones for you sirs :D my first attempt at an oldschool type beat...more your style. Let me know what you think (criticize plz)....also, I would like to know what else would you do to the beat, ...my 1st attempt be easy on me

    i want to add a few old school vocal samples, might add them later...

    anyhow, here it is

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=1025521&songID=8872318

    of course I want everyones take on this, but as we know Lotuz is the veteran when it comes to these type of beats :lol:
     
  7. Nicro

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    @ Tac Honestly I felt the beat was a little, meh. The main sample seemed cool, but all the 808s didn't really fit, and I wasn't really feeling the horns. If its your first hip hop beat don't sweat it though, you will get it goin with practice.

    But here is a beat I made using this cool french sample. Its just a simple, straight little hip hop joint. Let me know what ya'll think.

    http://www.divshare.com/download/10737063-ada
     
  8. TacOffice

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    @Nicro - whoa whoa whoa lol yea idk what happened when i rended thats hella bass... let me fix that crap, ty man....sigh well i guess check out the beat i just finished..maybe a little better? idk, let me know when u get a sec.

    LookingGood

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=1025521&songID=8873240


    Updated, OLDSKOOL is fixed...i had the damn "hold" on 100% (no wonder:eek: )

    *** updated of LookingGood is up as well
     
  9. Nicro

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    Lets see(listening now)......Better indeed. Not feelin those claps..... sample is alright. Still not bangin in my opinion. Better though. I think you need to use different sounds and it would make a hell of a difference. Mind droppin a line on my beat though?
     
  10. TacOffice

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    NICRO yea for sure I can drop something but, would you mind uploading to say where you can stream it? I apologize its just I never download anything on this laptop here, I am trying to keep it clean and running smooth....:D

    I uploaded a slightly different version of LookingGood and ill see what i can do with the OLDSKOOL bleh
     
  11. Nicro

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  12. TacOffice

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    I like it, DEF. east coast

    percussion is perfect imo..sample is tight too ( on point )

    keep it up, i like hearing east coast beats :cool:

    I could hear mos def, talib....

    speaking of mos def.. you hear that new 24 hour karate school mixtape?
     
  13. Nicro

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    New Mos! But naw I didn't even cop the Estatic or whatever its called. Mos is badass but the New Danger just threw me off after Black on Both sides, I haven't even checked any of his **** after that.

    Thanks for the comment though, I'm all about that east coast vibe dunny!(Even though I'm in the southwest haha.) All about that original real ass hip hop.


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    I was just thinking, who else is down to have a little thing goin on like on FP where we put up samples and people can take a crack at em, just to get crits and to see how everyone approaches the song. I'll up that French sample if people are down.....
     
  14. TacOffice

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    For the Sample Gig = IM DOWN! +1

    and nah its not Mos Defs new album or mixtape...its a thing Dame Dash put together..

    its got like currensy, mos def, cool kids, and a bunch of others on the cd...

    look it up creativecontrol.tv
     
  15. pawcut

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    @ rawtech , ur electro background is clearly audiable ;) , still like the vibe ,reminds of some dj shadow stuff , what i miss for a hip-hop -beat is that repeatative loop vibe , in the end its a more like a lil phatty session.... in my ears the snare is too busy for a headnod.....

    @ tacoffice ,knowing ur early stuff i feel u really improved man , keep it up...i like looking good a lil better than old school ...what i dont really feel are these low end digital kicks , they dont develop a real boom to the bap of the snare..

    @nicro ,nice ,like the way u put that bass and u seem to be real good in mixing down stuff as well.....plus im down for whateva but we might get probs if we upload samples with royalties here...plus i really like the new danger though its a total different cup of tea than black on both sides.
     
  16. Lotuz

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    Did someone say my name? ;)

    I like oldskool with the Slick Rick shakers :cool:. It's almost perfect for an MC like Jay-Z.

    But you want to know what I would do, so...

    I'd use a stronger bassdrum to match the snares you're using.

    If possible I'd prevent the chops of main sample from overlapping. It sounds like the pianist is holding down the sustain pedal in the third bar.

    I'd probably filter (high pass) the main sample and add the bass myself like I did with Takin' It Easy. Maybe that will make the overlapping sound better too.

    Check out the hi-hats, because I can hear them flanging at the end of the fourth bar.

    And I'd pan the shakers and the hi-hat a bit to the left and right.

    Where are the horns that Nicro mentions btw?
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    Very Pete Rock-ish. And that's a good thing. :cool:

    Sure, why not?
     
  17. Ben Grimm

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    Can it be that it was all that simple then?

    Yup. Amen-Ra breaks down the minimal bits and pieces used to create one of the top beats Jay-Z has laid verses over, in my opinion. Kick, snare, hi-hat, bass, sample, and a touch of keyboards. Many times when I have trouble with a beat, I strip elements out, one by one, until the track gets back to that original rough and ready idea that first came into your head.

    I think this is a perfectly realized example of following what's in your head, and not getting bogged down in the idea of more is better.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6P06Ddzac"]YouTube- Ron "AMEN-RA" Lawrence presents: "Where I'm From", the making of the Jay-Z track.[/ame]
     
  18. Lotuz

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    Diamond D!

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki0lI92IKzA"]YouTube- Fat Joe - Bad Bad Man[/ame]
     
  19. Lotuz

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  20. pawcut

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    hmmm , i dont really feel it needs more to it .....
    maybe a lil cello or pizzicato 8th arpeggio on the end of every second bar , but :
    if its not broke dont fix it imo