Maschine + Idea/Song View

I want to first start by saying that I am new to Maschine. Im going thru tutorials to get familiar with the basic functions. What I cant' figure out is Idea / Song View. I understand must of it but what I cant seem to figure out is how to duplicate "Patterns" in each scene? When im using the program on the Mac, I just right click the pattern and i get the option to duplicate. That allows me to layer patterns with alternate samples.

Does anyone know how to do this in stand alone mode?

Thanks

 

In the Pattern Menu there is a "Duplicate" option

 

Damn, this is one tough maschine to get started with -,-
Not only concerning my example from my first post ( majoritiy of drum kits not shown in instruments/ drum kits, but rather in "groups", wtf?). Thanks D-One by the way!
The I in NI definitely doesnt stand for intuitive^^.
I was just starting out trying some sampling and chopping and I couldnt do it if my life depended on it. The chopping works, but I cant just copy/paste arrange the slices in different tracks, which would seem to me should be the most obvious and easy task ?!
I always have to record them. Which renders the question, what am I doing wrong. A lot of times I am looking at screen and have no clue what they want to tell me. That's gonna be a fun one in next weeks...At least the pads glow vividly -.- Frankly I had a look inside the manual and I cant say it's very hands on, is it?
Cheers to all!

 

This is interesting. I firmly believe there are left-brained and right-brained people, and devices are typically designed by one of them. For me, Maschine comes super-intuitive, so i believe my way of thinking is the same as the designers of Maschine. I had the issues you describe with other gear, f.e. Ableton Push. It might be worth to try out another brand of device (Push, MPC etc.) to see if it better fits your way of thinking and working, and is more intuitive to you.

Sorry i couldn't give a silver bullet answer.

 

Drum kits are are a group of 16 sounds. When you load a kit, you are loading the full set of samplers, effects and even instruments (one pad of a drum kit is a kick synth for example. Plus a group bus processing, macros etc. So drum kits in Maschine are really far from being an instrument.
Instruments are a VST or a sampler or audio module you load in just one sound.

I've been using maschine for almost 10 years, so I grew used to all these concepts so i cannot say if they're not intuitive. It all simply makes sense to me.

Let us now if you have more questions.

 

What's your background? MPC's? If so o 'Group' is the equivalent of a 'Program'.
A Group is 16 Pads loaded with whatever, the reason is not called "DrumKit" is that Pads can also have instruments, FX, etc... So it wouldn't make sense to have 'drum' in the name but a lot of users refer to Groups as "Kits" even tho that is not really the official terminology.

HEHEHeh How intuitive it is is very subjective, the very start of the learning curve is the hardest but after that, I find it pretty intuitive and I never ever had to read the manual.

There are no 'Tracks' technically, just Pads.
There's lots of ways to chop samples, with the old-school method for example you can just set the start/end point, duplicate the Pad to the next Pad and edit the start/end points again... It's pretty fast, watch the video on post #44 here to get an ideia.
Or you can also use Auto Slice, or Split, etc... lots of options.

 

Hey OP, I am relatively new to Maschine as well, and like you I occasionally scratch my head. Bear with it, it is quite intuitive once you get the basic concepts in your head.
The manual is really a reference manual, not a tutorial guide. That said, bits of it like the slicing section do have a simple step-by-step approach. You can slice and then 'Apply' the slice to lay the slices out on the pads, and it seems to generate a MIDI pattern automatically to play the slices back in order. Work through that section of the manual to figure it out.
I am assuming you worked through the whole 'getting started' guide? Worth going back and re-reading the description of what the various components are. It took me a while to get the idea of Plug-ins (are they Instruments? Or FX? Actually both!). After playing with it for a week, I found the descriptions made much more sense.