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Maschine Mikro Volume question

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by mobetta518, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. mobetta518

    mobetta518 NI Product Owner

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    Anyone know how to adjust the volume of an individual sound in a group via the controller? I only see the vol function for the entire project...can't seem to find manual anywhere, any help is appreciated.
     
  2. jiggle

    jiggle Forum Member

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    With the full size maschine you hold the pad with the sound on it and turn the volume knob. might be the same with the mikro?
     
  3. djadonis206

    djadonis206 NI Product Owner

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    When you're on that volume page hold the pad you want affected down and adjust the volume
     
  4. mobetta518

    mobetta518 NI Product Owner

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    Thank you!
     
  5. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    But how do you change it from the "main" page without triggering the damn sound when you press it? I want to use this live w/o triggering notes when I hold the pad down.
     
  6. Jiloo

    Jiloo NI Product Owner

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    Press "select" and pad. It will make no sound. Then keep pressing pad and change volume.
     
  7. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    I tried that...doesnt work. When I am in "main" mode, and press select, and the pad, and hold the pad, when I turn the knob it acts like a scrub, not a volume for the sound!
     
  8. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    Or actually it just controls main volume
     
  9. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    Maybe I'm not being clear. When one is in the main volume window, one can hold the group button, select the pad for the particular group, and the main volume knob in the main volume section will change the volume for that group. The same thing works for individual pads, or sounds within the group. However, so far when I select the sound, it makes a noise of C3 of that instrument when I select it. When in this mode and I try what you're saying, which is one of the first things I tried, the knob merely remains as a main volume knob, and not a volume for the individual sound.
     
  10. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    One trick I did find that did work but it's a little funny, is if I touch the pad very slowly rather than tap it, it doesn't make a note, and I can hold it to adjust the volume.
     
  11. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    This only works with drum sounds however, for when one attempt to do this with a pad or other sustaining sound one gets a drone in the accursed And obnoxious C3 :-€
     
  12. alpert

    alpert NI Product Owner

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    F1 Master
    F2 Group
    F3 Sound
    nav+F2 channel (where the volume is)
    nav+F3 plug in (engine, pitch, etc)

    Select+pad makes no sound, only selects. You don't need to find workarounds about that.

    To be sure:
    With "select", people is actually referring to a knob, not an action. You know that, don't you?
     
  13. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    Did I not make it abundantly clear that that is what I am trying to avoid doing? Do people not read the thread completely. I am totally aware of that workflow-shattering process, but I am trying to change the volume from the MAIN volume page, which makes WAY more sense than using 5,000,000,001 button combinations to change the volume!!!!! Grrr!
     
  14. Jiloo

    Jiloo NI Product Owner

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    I guess that's the price you pay for having only one knob in Maschine Mikro. Button mashing.
     
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    Jiloo NI Product Owner

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  16. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    Ok. So, it would seem that almost nobody gets the question that I'm asking which at this point is evolving more into a request from native instruments.

    There are two modes by which one can mix levels on Mikro. While the Mk2 (mine which is being sent back because it is defective, thus forcing me to use my Mikro) has the most amazing mixer mode which works wonderfully when I am playing instrument live on machine I need to also mix levels, the machine micro doesn't.

    However, NI, in their infinite wisdom, give us two ways to set levels. My least favorite way is the one which so many of you who COMPLETELY misinterpret my question advise me to do, which is:

    select>sound(pad)>nav>sound(F3)>channel(F2)>out/level(arrow).

    (I am amazed that you would think that I don't know about this way! Really?!)

    ...and which is woefully inefficient to do when I am jamming live instruments on pads over looped patterns while triggering scenes, they came up with an amazing way to emulate mixer mode on the Mikro!

    One can merely select and change group and sound levels from the "MAIN" page! This is almost as good as mixer mode. GET IT!?!?!?

    For the uninitiated who have attempted so bravely to answer my question, it goes something like this:

    Main>volume>pad (of desired sound, or any note of currently highlighted sound in keyboard mode) knob! How perfect!!! Get it?!?!?

    Now, my only criticism of this system, and the point I bring up, is that a C3 note is played when one has an instrument loaded in the sound slot. This is exceedingly lame when one is not playing with "C" as the tonic, Dig?

    What I then propose, is that, when one is in MAIN mode, and in pad mode, (as opposed to keyboard mode) one be able to somehow choose wether the pads sound. For example one could do:

    MAIN>select>pad>knob!

    Can you all see how easy that would be?

    Again, thank you for your attempts to answer the question that you thought I was asking.
     
  17. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    Sold my push controller a month after i bought it once i mastered it, and realized that Machine is a million times better for NI Complete users, and has infinitely better pads IMO. The only thin I miss about Push is the way that my guitar-based patterns allowed me to completely shred.
     
  18. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    Actually, they are really close. I am almost able to use the Mikro as efficiently as my Full-sized Mk2, there is just one small issue-check my last post to this thread...
     
  19. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    Thank you, but...wrong answer-I know that, friend-please check my detailed post later in this thread...

    That is to say, I am specifically trying to avoid doing what you are suggesting, due to there being vastly superior options...almost...
     
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2014
  20. alpert

    alpert NI Product Owner

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    I have difficulties to understand you (maybe my lack of english)..
    What i understand about your problem is: you can't select a sound/pad (to adjust its volume)
    without triggering the sound. Correct?
    This is not true.
    In arranger wiev, mixer wiev, pad mode or keyboard mode, when you press the select button and hit a pad, Maschine makes no sound.