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Maschine MK2 or Jam?

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by Mckeenan, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. Mckeenan

    Mckeenan New Member

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    Hi all,
    I would like to know as a rookie (what comes to these) which one I should buy? What is the difference of these two and as a beginner, which one would be the best for me?
    Im doing music with logic and Im more a guitar guy but Im really interested of these controllers and electronic music.
    Hopefully someone could help me to figure out the best option, thanks!
     
  2. BuleriaChk

    BuleriaChk NI Product Owner

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    As a guitarist, if you're primarily interested in backing tracks (performing already created samples and loops in complete songs), I would choose Jam. If you're interested in chopping, slicing, programming sounds, etc., I would go with Maschine... Their functions overlap.

    I have Push, and run Maschine as a plug-in in Ableton Live. For me, Studio is way overkill. Maschine (and NI) sounds are much better than Live's, although the latter is no slouch, and most of them are tweakable... But aside from the Flamenco Loops I program (in 3/4, 6/8) I prefer the ready-made solutions in Maschine and Komplete....

    (I have no interest in performing as a DJ, but sometimes I have a friend who handles the loops while I play)....
     
  3. Mckeenan

    Mckeenan New Member

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    Thanks for your reply! It really helped.
    I don't have interest to play live neither and like you said, I'd use backing tracks while Im playing guitar. But what comes to making music the Jam would be the better choice then. I hate always to adjust things, Im more like plug and play type of guy :) with maschine and the sound library that comes along I hope I could just make tracks easily with those cool dj effects :)
     
  4. BuleriaChk

    BuleriaChk NI Product Owner

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    If that's all you need (primarily backing tracks), then I might even recommend a Mikro.....
    (very portable, and does the job)...
     
  5. kcearl

    kcearl NI Product Owner

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    jam is great for triggering clips, you can have 64 in front of you at one time. the faders are great for manipulating FX, far easier and quicker than knobs. The lock functions great, just hit it, go wild with the FX then hit it again and it goes straight back to the original sound. The step sequencer makes building beats a breeze too.

    Id recommend the mk2 to anyone who really wants to get into the software and sample, but for your needs Id go with the Jam
     
  6. Mckeenan

    Mckeenan New Member

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    Yeah I guess I will start with the Jam.. Plus it's about 200€ cheaper than Mk2. Im sure I will get started with Jam.
    Thank you so much for your recommendations!
     
  7. GoGoGomez

    GoGoGomez NI Product Owner

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    Jam is probably NOT what you want if you want to build backing tracks of drum bass and instrumental fills using finger drumming on pads however.

    Think of Maschine as a looper, but for drum pads instead of a guitar, and the drum pads can hold the sound of any instrument you want.

    Think of Jam as a robotic army of musicians at the control of your fingers that can combine mini tracks or loops that you've purchased or preassembled, and play a bunch of them together for you as a mini orchestra.

    If you have GarageBand on a phone tablet or laptop, try the Live Loops feature which is sort of how Jam works.
     
  8. mmorgan

    mmorgan New Member

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    One thing to consider is that Jam has no screen so you will need to be connected to a computer.
     
  9. Mckeenan

    Mckeenan New Member

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    But I was in thought the Jam has these drum pads also just like the mk2 have? And the software that comes along would be basically the same too? Am I right?
    You are right I want to make my own sounds and play them too but I'd also like to have those FX things. Choice of these two seems to be pretty interesting thing.
     
  10. Mckeenan

    Mckeenan New Member

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    If we forget the Live playing and live performance , I'd use this as a more like an instrument in my studio making and recording tracks
     
  11. Big Phaddy

    Big Phaddy NI Product Owner

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    The Maschine, the Maschine studio and the Maschine Mikro all have the 16 velocity sensitive pads.

    The Jam does have the equivalent 16 pads so can be used in the same way BUT they are not velocity sensitive. They are fixed velocity which can be adjusted to whatever velocity you wish and can even be "humanised" to give a more natural human sound/feel.

    The software is exactly the same no matter which controller you choose but the Jam does have some features in the software that can not yet be utilised by the other controllers and are specifically aimed at the Jam hardware and touch strips.
     
  12. kcearl

    kcearl NI Product Owner

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    You could make a track with Jam easily. I think of it more as an accompanying instrument to maschine than a replacement. Its true that its pads are not velocity sensitive but the adjustments you can make to add velocity and/or humanise it are clever.

    Ive only recently returned to maschine...but I find myself using Jam to build the track way more than Maschine. The sequencer is excellent for getting quick ideas down.

    You could add a mikro or just another used controller later...thatll give you screens and velocity you can play in
     
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  13. rudynicoletti

    rudynicoletti NI Product Owner

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    both of them are different production tools imo: mk2 is more focused on the sample itself and the beat editing capabilities whereas jam on the arrangement of your song