Solved Maschine MK3 Microphone capabilities

Because i already have the the 1st Maschine Hardware (that some call the MK1), also the Mk2 & the Mikkro
i was slow to get excited about spending hundreds of dollars more to put another previously bought Controller on the self for a new one.
but i've been doing my research to see how the MK3 would benefit my "work flow"
& i'm considering jumping on the MK3 wagon.. but i have some questions, that could not be answered from scrolling through the MK3 Manual

So, quick question: Is the sound card on the MK3 capable of accommodating Microphones that use 48v Phantom Power

on the MK2 (& Mikkro) i use the Komplete Audio Interface, & that has a button you push to power up Phantom Powered Microphones.
i have a few other toys that i use to accomplish that on my iPad.. but since the MK3 already provides a Microphone input, i wanted to know..
if someone chooses to put their Microphone straight into the MK3's MIC IN socket is there a way to turn on 48v Phantom Power mics

& if so .. How would we do that

 

No, the MK3 interface does not support phantom power.
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2017/10/03/sonic-lab-ni-maschine-mk3/

 

No phantom power
But if you hook a unpowered mixer
to your set up
You can accomplished that

 

Do yourself a favor a look at it from a different point of view.
The audio interface is the last thing you should be concerned with instead look at the aspects that really matter.

The current version of Maschine (2.7) has reached the point where using it on the older controllers feels counter-intuitive and as they add more of the promised features it's only going to get worse.
The lack of visual representation along with the way you have to get to various functions can have you reaching for the mouse while looking at the computer screen far too often.
Add to that the actual improvement in the hardware and it's definitely time for someone who is holding on to a mk1. mk2 and Mikro make the move forward while they still have some potential to get a few dollars for the old models.

In your case adding the mk3 would still have you using your Komplete Audio interface but there's nothing wrong with that since the built in interface lacks the ability to do what you are currently doing.

 

Only dynamic microphones are compatible in Maschine MK3's audio interface for recording from mic input. I still use my Focusrite Scarlett Solo 2nd Gen for recording vocals using condenser mic with 48v phantom power.

 

Thanks for the Feedback from those that directly answered my question.
that kind of feedback is much appreciated.
Especially that link from Asteryx, its very useful..

As i said i do have the Komplete Audio 6 that i've used for years (& i have other interfaces)
So the MK3's lack of support for Phantom Powered Mics is not a deal breaker. i would just do what i've done for years.

But People who are getting very amp'd on the inclusion of the audio interface here, need to know BEFORE they spend their hard earned, whether or not it will suite their needs.i do a lot of vocals.. & i have high quality mics (that require Phantom Power).. There are some who buy our gear to suite different creative needs & workflows .. to accomplish different creative results. So there is no one "Point of view" that we need "look at" to do ourselves a favor & subscribe to. there are still people out there using MPC 2000 XL because it suites there needs, so it remains their weapon of choice (& God bless 'em). There is a reason heads are still using that vintage gear. Not everyone approaches the canvas to paint the say way.

NI has put out a lot of gear & updated other pieces over the last year or so. When we buy one thing.. something else comes out & makes what we just spent money on.. obsolete. i'm sure thats why i've recently seen a ton of people selling almost brand new or "Like New" gear on eBay & Craigslist, trying to reduce their losses before running to keep up with what falls off the back of the truck every season.. we don't all get complimentary gear for writing favorable reviews, or being down with the in crew.. some of us are actually spending our hard earned C.R.E.A.M.

i've already mentally (not yet physically) cleared space for that MK3.. Maybe by the time i actually go for it.. it will have an updated audio interface that supports Phantom Powered Mics .. lol

Maybe it won't be too long of a wait..
NI has just put those Komplete Audio 6es on sale
Why.?
one would think at some point they won't be needed

just speculating

 

Oh well the list gets larger.

 

the Komplete Audio 6 interface goes on sale every year around this time. nothing new.

 

Ok.. thanks for the info. i benefited from the Black Friday sales, didn't know the Audio 6 annually went on sale too.
(last year around this time my Komplete Audio 6 burned out, & i had to get a new one (bought a "like new one" from someone cheap on Craigslist). Thats one of the reasons i got excited when i saw the MK3 has an Audio interface on it, Because i didn't want to have to buy another one down the line. & lugging it around is an extra thing that needs to be carried.

 

This is big pile of BS you just wrote there, im still on MK1 and i see that MK3 has goddamn good looks, but 599Eur for heaphone audio monitor and a touchstrip i dont think so. still im very happy that NI support for MK1 is top notch. so i probably upgrade only when my mk1 breaks down

 

If you think the difference is about the minimal soundcard and the touch strip you are very confused.

 

Would you mind giving some specific examples of when you've felt like this when using a non-Mk3?

 

It is worth noting that some condenser mics can also operate on battery power and they could work fine with the Mk3.

 

As someone new to Maschine I find it very encouraging that you feel that way and are still happy using your Mk1. For me the Mk3 was a no brainer but this makes me feel more comfortable with the long term value of my investment.

 

Ahhhh.. this discussion has gotten juicy.

@ COYC. I feel you, real talk, I wasn’t trying to get seduced into giving up a whole lot of/mo’ chedda for another piece of hardware (sometime the “advancements” have been small.. other times like after 2.5 to 2.7 there have been big leaps).. But where it benefits me, I always try to move future forward. I departed from the “MK1” because the finger drummer in me saw (from comparing the MK1 to the Mikkro – which I bought FIRST), that the touch sensitivity on the MK1’s pads sucked. What made me have to put the MK1 on the self though, was the USB port plug in. As legend had it, & I found out too, that input developed a shortage after a while & since I bought mine used it came with that shortage already in effect. I opened it, did a solder job, & fixed it.. but I still wanted to move forwarded & have pads with better sensitivity. When I upgraded to the MK2, there were a ton of things that made it a way better investment. Again, the pads were better, the group buttons make things accessible in a quicker manner. it’s a better piece. But staying with the MK1 although it’s a vintage oven now, you can still bake your cakes..

That said, I’m not going to lie, from taking a deeper look, I’m finding the MK3 does come with some bells & whistles I’m going to love getting my hands on. A lot of it is things that put certain options that lie hidden beneath menus, right in your face. .. But I’ve never been one who has that “ignore the computer, & Don’t touch the mouse” issue. I’m very computer savvy (in fact I find it stupid to take more time browsing around on the hardware for certain things (like Expansions & Sound Efx & such), when the software has those things right in your face, & you can just point & click.. A lot of the things are on the upgraded MK3 can still be located on the software (except for that modulation strip). & comes down to personal preference (do you prefer zippers, or taking the time to button up).. Again.. I’m future forward, & the future is gonna keep coming ..so, I will take the leap.. but for the cooks that want to stay Vintage (like there are still guitarist who won’t touch nothing but vintage Fenders & Gibsons), it will be more tedious as the software keeps changing.. but you’ll still be able to bake up some funk..

 

For me it is the workflow and sexy feel of the M3, it's just plain faster and feels better. Headphone amp is a welcome bonus!

That said, my last machine was getting a bit gummy from heavy use.

 

ye, i guess lock function was introduced, that kind of change my sound too, but as it goes for upgrading i dont say "mk3 has to be more features to be worth the price" i think its dope as it is, but it is a different flow, i have this controller since 1,6 came out, and it is grown in my finger memory, once i had kind of "learning everything once again times" when 2,0 came out, it was like learning to walk again im not in hurry, i will sit on it for now

 

I bought a Rode NT1-A Recording Microphone & the guys from JustMusic Store told me that it should work with Phantom 2 Power Supply for using it with the Maschine MK3.

Is that true? After I read several stuff I start doubting that..

Thanks for your help!

 

you will need a preamp between that microphone and mk3. usually phantom power is in every mixer out there. so easy way to power up a condenser mic with some cheap mixer that goes into maschine inputs. personally i have same mic, and audio interface that powers it up with no problem, but i hooked up a behringer 802 cheapest mixer just to power up a mic and have bit more eq options before it goes into audio inputs in my soundcard.

 

Thanks!
So that means to use the recommended adapter isn't enough though and won't work?

https://www.amazon.de/Justin-JustIn...d=1522081803&sr=1-1&keywords=justin+phantom+2