MASCHINE (NI Groove Controller/Software)

each Pad has an assign choice for MIDI Channels. Pressure can also be programmed to send Notes and that could be a different MIDI Channel


to clarify, threre is a separate application for programming the Hardware Controller for use in MIDI Mode. fwiw, i have enjoyed using the Controller to tweak the ES1 Synth in Logic 8.

sowari

 

Hey sowari, I don't really like the color of the gui, is there any reason they went with that color scheme, like its better for the eyes or something?

And I really must ask, why are the knobs not at the top of maschine and the buttons below the screen? It seems like the knobs might obstruct the screens on the controller if its sitting in front of me? Also if I'm reaching to hit the buttons going over the knobs might be a pain.

 

"Glide, on the Automation? not sure i understand, please clarify"

- I meant if automation is recorded as offsets, if there is a 'tweening' option between two offsets like on the MachineDrum for example, or is that something you'd just manually draw or perform in.


you manually draw (with a knob or mouse), but you can edit it afterwards.

"The Sample map seems quite close to Reaktor, but what do you mean by automateable?"

- I meant is there something like a 'select knob' that can be automated that allows you to hot swap samples like you can with Reaktor samplers.

no, different samples are selected by pitch.

but remember you can use Maschine in Kore2 and so you will be able to also have a Reaktor Sampler and use the Hardware Controller to control Maschine and Reaktor just by pressing shift + control.

sowari

 

i have got used to the GUI and i really like it now. it is pretty easy on the eyes and easy to see when there is not much light. sorry i like it

sowari

 

maschine with traktor scratch pro

Can we use the Traktor pro with the maschine for a live?

 

Slices vs Time-stretch

there are a few advantages for slicing a beat (as opposed to time-stretching):

- it is very easy to get variations on a loop, just move the notes arround
on the Piano Roll Edit.

- just play in some chords (with gaps), use the transient choice and then move the notes and very quickly you can sat up some nice patterns
this is also good for playing in some guitar chords!

i have other software that does time-stretch (Reaktor and Battery) so i am happy to have the slice option in Maschine.

sowari

 

i don't use Traktor Pro so i can't really answer. does Traktor Pro have a clock out? Maschine does have an External MIDI Sync.

sowari

 

I won't argue that the slice has its own benefits. It would be nice to have both. One of the appeals of Machine for me and probably others is not having to bounce around importing and opening other applications to do sampling/sequencing. The tight integration is the appeal. I don't want to open up another program to time stretch a sample that I have loaded in MACHINE. This is what I was saying about the sequencer. I don't want tho try and use 2 sequencers at the same time or one for half my work and another for the rest. I don't want to have to open Kontakt to get more in depth sample editing. Ni could really have something special here. I hope you guys put more into it. Maybe Machine 2 will be more of what I am looking for.
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As it is, this is still no replacement for a hardware sampler like an MPC or MV. The controller integration is there and a first step but some other areas are not there yet.

 

Totally agree here. No one can dispute that slicing has it benefits and that you can work around timestretch issue using it. If Maschine didn't have slicing it would be DOA, imo. However, timstretching and slicing are not the same and the fact that NI actually has the capability (albeit a crappy one at the moment) means that it should be there if they really want this to be a groovebox, you are not going to find a modern groovebox without this feature, its a necessity, imo. I have no doubt that NI plans to add this feature sometime in the future, but I do't want to have to wait as long as I did for Kore 2 to arrive to get these new features. I'd rather save my cash and get an MPC1000 . Like I said before NI needs to hit this out of the ballpark because there will be many naysayers (which I've seen already on other forums) putting it down because its attached to a computer. You don't need to add to it by not having the software be robust.

 

interesting, for me this a real advantage in terms of loading samples and sampling from within a DAW.

also the Maschine Controller is great fun when it is used to tweak other music software instruments and effects.

sowari

 

I think you really have to think about the uses for these types of devices...

Originally many people just used the MPC series to make their whole song. It is very easy to do and the workflow is very good.

Many people continue to create on a single MPC type machine because they are familiar with it and can write great music with it.

Another set of people create their beats on a MPC and then either sync it to thier DAW or bounce down the beat to audio and import it into their DAW.

The advantage of Machine to me is that I primarily use a DAW based setup. This allows me to have the familiar MPC functionality but allows me to integrate it with my DAW.

Advatages to me are as follows:
- No need to sync to DAW
- No need to bounce the Audio
- DAW integration
- The ability to save Maschine sets automagically with the DAW session
- Maschine can utilize separate audio busses for additional processing
- I haven't had my hands on it yet, but the hadware integration looks very slick. It seems that you work a beat out on the hardware without ever having to look at the software. This makes it FEEL like a seperate unit while maintaining tight DAW integration.

To sum up... I think it really depends on how you make music. Everyone works a different way. You got to do what works for you. I center a lot of my music on complex beats, so this is something that is highly interesting to me. I do think there are a lot of possibilities for this and i cannot wait to get my hands on it.

I create Music Production training courses and I have pre-ordered this. I hope to get it soon and I will include it in my current curriculum.

Regards to all...

TechnoG0D

 

Well put TechnoGOD.. Well put..

 

Hello, i have a question. I like to rewire Torq into Ableton. Now let's say i'll run Maschine as a plug in into Ableton. Do you think everything will run in sync?

 

dear NI,
can we please have the sample library tagging feature in Battery too?

pretty please?

 

I don't see why not. I haven't had any sync issues with Maschine as a plugin inside Live.

ew

 

Cool!

 

Is it possible to use the Battery kits with MASCHINE? Or to use Battery as kind of Plugin in the MASCHINE software?

 

There's some of the Battery kits in the Maschine library already. However, there's no .kit/.kt2/.kt3 import- probably due to the fact that Maschine only has 16 slots per kit.

I posted something in the Reaktor forum using Maschine:

http://vaesolis.org/eric/music/MoundsPark.mp3

Metaphysical Function, two instances of Spark (hence the Reaktor forum; it was a thread about Spark) and Maschine.

Some more:

http://vaesolis.org/eric/music/BeforeTheStorm.mp3

Three instances of Camel Audio's Alchemy and Maschine- it was an Alchemy demo I did for Camel. The Akkord sequencer from EIv2's driving one of the Alchemy instances.

http://vaesolis.org/eric/music/TempleOfTheVacantLama.mp3

Two instances of Reaktor (MF and a homebrew ensemble), Akoustik Piano, Live's Simpler, Alchemy, VirSyn's TERA and Maschine.

The first two were done live inside Kore (Maschine was a plugin loaded into Kore) with GR's tapedeck on Kore's master. The other was done in Live.

ew

 

Oops- it looks as though the vaesolis account's been suspended. I'll have to talk to the guy whose account it is and see what happened.

ew

 

hello new community

I find MASCHINE very, very interesting

BUT!...

I have an important question:
I have seen the maschine clips & vids and noticed that in every video the sequencer switches from one pattern to the other, without completing the previous pattern (let's call this pattern 1). It brings the sounds of the next pattern in the moment when you press the 'pattern 2' button.

Because I'd like to use Maschine in my live sets (minimal-techno / elektro / ...) this is not what I want!
I want to be able to select the next pattern and let maschine switch automaticly after 16 (or 15 / 14 / ... - depends at what moment I press the button) bars so I can focus on muting/unmuting , FX, ... during the actual switch.

I hope you understand what I mean. I have a lot of electribes at the moment (ESX/EMX are now the center of my live setup) and they are able to do this. I hope this is possible with maschine too?