Maschine pads for synth sounds in dubstep

I am wondering how to assign different synth sounds to the Maschine pads. Ok- if I assign the drum samples, I can have different sample on each pad. So I can do the same to the synth samples if the samples are in the .wav format, right?

Now lets say I buy a library for Kontact, like this: http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html?1;24;2::513260::::::::B513260::516033 or use factory Kontact library. Can I open Kontact as a plug in in Maschine 2.0 sequencer and load different sounds to the pads? Or will I have to use Maschine in a controller mode, which would turn all pads to the same MIDI channel, and therefor use only one Kontact sound?

My goal is to make a Dubstep drop. I realize that everybody uses Abelton Live with Lounchpads and Abeltom pads controllers, and they assign all these sounds to the pads and able to play them in real time. I can't afford Abelton and wondering if there is a way to utilize the Maschine pads for this purpose. Any ideas would be appreciated.

 

Yes , there is a few ways to achieve this
Personally i actually find the routing in Maschine quite easy and it is also very beneficial to learn it anyway, so i would suggest that way

Load Kontakt on to a lane/pad
Then go to the output settings of every other lane/pad and change it to MIDI destination to the original Kontakt you loaded
Now change the MIDI ch and Transpose of each lane/pad to match the samples you wish to trigger

Now the cool bit
Set up the samples in kontakt to all have their own output
Now send each of those outputs to the matching triggering lane/pads input

Now your kontakt is set up to work exactly like the internal sample and will also render as such

 

Thank you for your reply. I can not visualize it yet- have to try and see if I can make it work... For example- you wrote, "Load Kontakt on to a lane/pad". I am not sure how that happens- I thought I load it some how differently. So in Kontact I will have to load lets say 5 different instruments with different MIDI channels. You saying- there is a way to change each lane/pad's midi channel? So I would change them to ch. 1 trough 5? Now, you saying- to set up outputs in Kontact per instrument. Do you mean Audio outouts? I am looking at this picture of Kontact. http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html?1;24;2::513260::::::::B513260::516033 I see MIDI channel Input in Kontact, I do not see MIDI Output. "Output St.1" is audio output. Wouldn't I need all those outputs to be set to the St 1-2 to be able to hear it and to bounce (mix) final audio?

Another question: can I use Pads sending MIDI to the DAW? (If I switch it to use as controller- the pads turn almost in to keyboard- they send MIDI to the same MIDI channel. Is there a way to have 16 pads transmiting to 16 MIDI channels when Kontact is loaded in Cakewalk Sonar and not in Maschine? Is there MIDI out from each Pad that can be transmitted to the host DAW? Thank you again.

 

Audio outs from Kontakt not MIDI outs
No you don't need to have all audio out from Kontakt to 1-2 (That's what mixers are for

Personally i would suggest using Kontakt loaded inside Maschine, however if you want to use it externally (MIDI controller mode) then just change the pads ch/key etc in the controller editor app

 

I am not understanding why I would have that many audio outputs returning, but I guess I have to try... I was under the impression that in Controller mode, all pads turn to one MIDI channel. Yes, I did try Editor. If I would change individual Pads to different MIDI channels, I would be able to load many different software synths- it would be awesome. No keyboard controller is able to assign individual keys to different MIDI channels- would be nice if it was possible... I am on another computer, finishing boring assignment and then will be able to test it... Thank you for the ideas.

 

You have that many audio returns so that you can mix using Maschine Mixer, which is infinitely better than Kontakts

Pads can be changed in the editor
Pads can already hold different synths/plugins, can all be done inside Maschine

Most keyboard controllers allow you to assign keys to different channels (It is called splits)

 

You know- now that you mentioned the splits... I am old school, I learned MIDI 20 years ago when it was relevant, but now electronic music production changed very much... I never thought of splits (which on Yamaha Motif can be done in Performance mode with 8 midi channels, I guess...) as Pads. I am not sure how they making Dubstep Drops- I hear many different sounds used in small music part, which makes me think- they using Pads and assign different sounds to different Pads. If I try to do it the old school and record one track with one sound at a time and plan empty spots for different sounds, it still not able to change sounds 10-16 times. Also- if I assign the keys or Pads to the different channels, lets say 5 different midi channels, I would end up recording 5 different MIDI tracks in Sonar (or any host DAW)? Hope you still following what I am saying. All I want to know is how they play one part with so many different sounds- it is too difficult to accomplish old fashion 1 track at a time method.

 

Yeah it pretty much isn't done with MIDI
Make the elements, record the elements, then sequence the elements
It is normally all done on the timeline as audio (Most people using Ableton i guess, I use Reaper)

 

Pff... you making it sound even easier! So just go ahead, record bunch of one shots, 1 measure parts with different sounds and then rearrange them? Not even bother to assign to the Pads? In that case- if I was to buy sound clips, I should not buy them in Kontact format, I should just buy them in .wav format, drag them in to Sonar and arrange? I thought that if I assign them to the pads, I could create some interesting rhythms combinations by playing real time, that I would not be able to come up with in step sequencer mode or by moving wav clips around. May be I should settle to just make those wav clips instead of buying them and then assign to Maschine Pads and play cool rhythms. I was thinking it should not be that hard. Can Reaper stretch the audio sample? Also- let me ask you this: can Maschine 2.0 stretch the sample (like slice and stretch it)?

 

I am not saying don't use the pads, but most of the brostep stuff is not done live, it is just done on the timeline, personally i think that entire genre is dead in the water right now anyway and needs re-inventing, so triggering on the pads is as good a place to start as any

Reaper can stretch yes (Various algos)
Maschine can stretch (Not as good as elsewhere, but works)

 

The entire genre as electronic music or entire genre as brostep/dubstep? I would not categorize "dub" step as "bro". I am talking about Complextro, or Skrillex- like music. The problem with it is that many "drops" sound the same because it not organized in any order- it just a collection of sounds, so it is not distinguished from one artist to another. But I thought- it is the latest movement in the electronic music. If now- what is latest?

I appreciate your help, it is great talking with you.

 

'Skrillex style' is dead for me, the sounds are great, but the musicality is gone now that everybody has finished all sounding the same, same happened to DnB just before it became all powerful (Nobody worrying about sounding that same as the previous tune)

 

Well- for me- I am trying to learn how to sound like everybody else- I sound too much like "me" not in a best way. If it was great being me, I would sale lots of downloads. But I hardly get paid for my music all over download sites, so being "me" is not working. So I want to learn how to sound like everybody else. Thank you for helping me!