Maschine Studio Price Drop

Would love dual screens on jam.

 

Eventually I think we see one of those. Both tied to whatever new features NI will have in the future.

 

The difference between the launching of the Jam and the studio and subsequently the S8 (Traktor) was the development of the technology namly the hi res screens.

Now, let's not treat the Jam as another Maschine. Let's treat the Jam like we would treat the Mikro to the Maschine (both mki and MKii). Then it's not a long shot that they would release a low end Jam for Mikro and Maschine MKii users and a pro version for studio users. It also stand to reason that the Jam can serve as a perfect bridge for maximizing both KK and Maschine products.

It's a much needed price drop. Let's keep in mind that this makes the products as a whole more inviting. They are trying to convince other user to jump ship more than anything. And especially now that it's well known that famous producers use them. Maschine is a gate way product.

 

£629-£639 in the uk that's a good price , considering the future updates

 

I also see the next maschine studio and mk with an integrated sound card. It is certain that it would be useful to many users.

 

I personally doubt it. They seem to be concentrating on software improvements at the moment.

Also they've price dropped several controllers recently (kk keyboards, tractor controllers) without replacements following them. I myself picked up my studio controller when it was on a sale a couple of years ago.

 

those were sales and for a limited time as it was stated in their advertising. this is permanent. as advertised its the new price. also, when the KK was on sale, the Jam was released... the traktor s8 was also on sale when the jam came out.

I mentioned early the lack of the need to develop new technology, we all know the short comings the Jam has by its self. we also know that its missing key elements that other devices have including NI's own line of groove sequencers. to create a more professional Jam type situation in a bigger form factor wouldn't be impossible or even unlikely. I feel like a lot of people forget how many devices fall in to the Traktor line of controllers. NI has a direction they are growing in.

 

You can read into it what ever you like.

I'm personally not going to hold my breath for a new controller (nor do I think ones needed as software improvements are the main focus now).

I also don't think the other controllers going on sale has anything to do with Jam as they are different products aimed at different demographics.

These kind of speculation threads always start when any price reduction comes along. They're mostly filled with GAS induced wishful thinking and not much else.

But hey, knock yourselves out...

 

it came out 3 years ago so it's due a permanent price drop , especially with what's on the market now.
What I'm wondering is ,if the new features that are being talked about arrive ,audio tracks etc , will it be a paid update ?

 

I think we've got a couple more ".x" updates before "3".

 

and I bet it will be. the lack of daw integration, and the updates to Both Machine and Komplete Kontrol points to really just one thing in my eye:

with how uniform the Traktor software is, Complete Kontrol, And the groove sequencing of Machine, Native instruments has set them selves up for a fourth piece of software:

a full DAW. they are close, and if they implement all the feature we are requesting, technology that already available to them, all they need to do is ensure enough hardware owners will feel the need to buy it.

I feel the DAW is near

 

Assuming you are correct (I assume you mean a full feature DAW)... If they haven't sorted their sequencer, DAW integration and midi by then we definitely know what direction they are heading. If they don't have resources for that then it's pretty obvious what's gonna happen with a DAW, takes far more Dev time and a lot more complex. So I would be extremely surprised if this is going to happen (but then crazy things do). I'm not sure a DAW would be suitable for their closed ecosystem ethics either.

Why have a DAW from NI when there is Bitwig anyway (it looks just like something from NI right now).

 

I just don't want to assume they are ignoring us. I would say all of our requests are feasible. and heck, the KK s-series can write midi into Logic Pro, so I know they know what they need to do to make it happen... it just seems like all of these minor changes and updates are beta tests for a full feature DAW, instead of solving all our issues.....

 

Maybe I'm more of a sceptic. I think the Dev resources are spread too thinly (too many products not enough Devs). Their concentration has always been Komplete and shiny new controllers. Also it's clear they've gone a little harder into the agile development route which gives an insight into the process.

 

what do you mean by agile development route?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development

 

I follow you....

you know I was just browsing and I noticed the s-5 in traktors line is also only 799. its was the flagship of its day. thats tells me that thats how valuable to them the studio is. we know based on the capabilities of the s-8 that they can include the interface and we see how much value that adds. also, their standalone interface was also on sale..... if they lowered the price of all the other products, what if it was a test to see what people would buy and how much to price it? the s-8 isn't too much bigger that the studio, if it is at all. the studio already has the hi-res screens and full transport control. I bet more people would buy their interfaces if it came but in more devices and I bet their interface sales are low compared to other sales....

I can see a Machine Studio MKii with built in interface priced for 1199 and I can see them adding USB ports so you can add the Traktor Kontrol add ons and Machine Jam without going through the computer. this would turn the Machine jam into a mixing console along as live performance tool. that paired with the KK, you have a full recording studio, at least from a composers stand point. with also being able to add kontrol decks, you have a full Dj setup too

 

You would still need a computer to run it tho

 

Traktor has the cabailty to no use a computer using stems technology... its wouldn't be too absurd to also include it with Machine

 

Don't understand this... Stems is just a file format as far as I'm aware. Much like FLAC (which should have been used in the first place).