Maschine Thread for former MPC owners

that making beats at the beach **** or on the train **** is played out shat **** looks nerdy to me.

id rather enjoy the outdoors rather then make beats while camping o hiking or at the beach.

maschine is quicker for me and the integration with the pc is very useful

so as far as the music that can be produced there is nothing the mpc2500 can do that cant be done with maschine barring sequencing external hardware

 

MPC 2500 is better at
1. Sampling and sample editing (especially chopping samples)
2. Creating drum programs
3. Sequencing internal or external sounds

While Maschine can do these things..it is not on the same level as an MPC 2500 in this regard. On the flip side, Maschine does do things that an MPC can't. But these 3 things really should be addressed and improved in future OS updates for Maschine.

 

So can you make an arrangement with different tempos? Say my intro is 75 BPM, Hook is 92 BPM, Break Down is 75BPM.... I have yet to figure out how to do this on Maschine. However its something very simple to do on the MPC with different sequences. Can I create a sub loop in Maschine for punch in recording? Say I had an 8 bar loop but I need to punch something in between bars 7-8 while looping that section only....Havent figured that out on Maschine yet. Can I pull up another sequence that I created at an earlier time and include it into my current arrangement to create a change or secondary section of music within my song? Can I consolidate all scenes in a single scene(Sequence)? These are the type of questions that I have about Maschine's sequencer, and I wonder whether Im the only person here that used these types of functions on the MPC. Maybe Im crazy though let me know if any of yall used these types of sequencing features on the MPC

 

that's a great question! I'm from a mpc 3000 bacground and having the option to link segements with different tempos would be a nice thing to have instead of only one tempo as currently offered on maschine

 

far as sampling goes long as u can assign sounds to pads and change start an ends, pulll **** in from different source do fx n filters i dont see what ele u need define better sampling? or better chopping?

yes kontak sample editing can do more but most of that **** i neva need or use

changing tempos again aint a feature i use in each beat quick work arounds for the odd occasions is easy to come by just export to live or what ever else u use.

but for the lion share of the most used features when putting a beat down i find the work flow slicker and quicker.

again personal choice respect to peeps that rep the mpc but for how i like to work and the features i need most of the things that can be done on the 2500 i dont need.

 

I was a MPC user for 14 years and I recently sold my 2500 because I was plain bored of it and Maschine definitely gives me that "all in the box" feeling that I got from my 1st MPC .

But . . . some things frustrate me coming from a MPC frame of creation .

Such as it not having any analog outs . I'm running PT w/ a Digi002 rack and it's frustrating to not be able to run audio into it straight from Maschine in a free play form . The drag and drop audio feature is nice if you want to do that for every track but it's really not as practical as just hitting record on your DAW and laying a beat down through your 8 outs on the MPC for say, a 3 minute beat (or however long you feel like making it), and not have to calculate scenes or patterns .

How does anyone on here who was a long time MPC user go about laying out their sequences (or scenes & patterns rather) in Maschine ?

That's pretty much my only problem w/ it besides knowing the hardware probably won't last me a decade like my 1st MPC .

 

This is already possible. Maschine has 8 stereo outs vs MPC 5 stereo outs. Refer to your DAW on how to enable multi-outputs from plug-ins. If you are using Maschine stand alone you can still do it on a MAC by routing the audio with Soundflower.

 

surely u just export ur wavs or run the the sound out from ur soundcard or headphone jack into audio interface

 

Thanks b-righteous, just DL'd soundflower . I'll check it out .

I'm doing that but it feels cheesy compared to using 1/4"'s . Plus a stereo out isn't like having you're kick, snare, hat, samples, bass, etc. all on their own channel w/ ease .

I'm about to check this soundflower app. out right now .

 

I feel you, I used to love freakin the beat live to record it, I usually did it by resampling into the 4k live, but sometimes did it through the output into the daw.

The best way I can see to do this is either loading it as a plugin and routing your sounds to the multiple outputs, or using something like soundflower, reroute, or your audio interfaces virtual mixer.

Reroute is a good option too, because reaper will automatically see all the inputs For the 60 dollar fee for reaper (unless you make enough from music to require purchasing the pro license), that's not a bad use for it. I don't prefer it as a daw, but for stuff like this, it's very flexible/useful. I use it as an audio utility more than I do as a daw. Recording streaming audio into Reaper is pretty slick.

So go either the plugin route and send your sounds to Maschine's multiple outputs, or do it via the virtual mixer route like reroute, soundflower, jack, etc.

 

I hear what you say, but that's not even what music is about. I don't know or care if I look nerdy on the beach making music, and when I do no ones around but dolphins and they don't give a ****. I don't hike. I don't camp. I make beats.
you're still where you're at.
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I agree it's all personal choice, I'm not even trying to rep the mpc, i have no plans to stop using maschine, if you've read any of my post you know I only want maschines workflow to improve and for it to become even better.
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these are all major concerns, bread and butter workflow issues that I can't imagine Ni neglecting so hopefully it won't be much longer, these are things that are important no matter what kind of tool you use I'm for sure with you on each and every point.
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I'll never sell my mpc. it will always be in my heart and arsenal but I'm loving maschine more every day.

 

I'm goin bonkers with Maschine... I can make a beat quicker than a sandwich now I think...

 

id sa the mpc was one of my least productive units as far as my output but it is a quality unit but does not have the sense of fun or experimental vibe of the korg esx and the maschine has a similar vibe in terms of how i interact with the unit

 

I would say its the opposite for me, my workflow was the fastest when I had My MPC 2500+Motif ES6+Analog Synths, I was cooking up tracks in no time.....it was just tracking it all out that took much longer(when dealing with longer sequences). Now the workflow is much different......in some ways its great and in other ways it could still use some improvement.

 

I see where you're comin from now I just sold an Esx-1, that thing is a monster and very good tool, but all three are different animals, as a matter of fact maschine replaced my esx-1, and I feel like the esx or maschine drum would be a better comparison if I was to compare than an mpc, but I won't so forget what I said:lol: lets make some music

 

peeps is always reluctant to compare me if its a sampling drum machine im happy to draw a comparisson

 

reason why is cause they are so different, look how dope the esx is, dope dope dope but the pads aren't comparable to an mpcs pads neither is the sample time, or the file storage structure system, and the limited parts etc.... and how can you compare the mpc to the esxs tube saturator....fresh...or it's effx, motion sequencing, there is just no way to accurately do so, the way a mofo can just move around on the esx and do **** on the fly is just sick , the mpc excels at it's mute functions but outside of that you can't do the same **** as on the esx anyway maschine is more in the esx catagory than an mpc that's just my opinion

 

nah that is comparison in its self the pads on maschine and mpc r better then esx, they have re-released the esx with built in 32gb memory addressing file storage issues.

the fx on the unit **** on the 1k, the number of traks is not an issue on the esx

the only weakness i knew of is the quantize was fixed at 1/16 or 1/32 and the choke groups were not freely assignable

the mpc1k is dope but i think u need osxl or os2 with none destructive editing to improve the workflow and features.